The following is a partial extract from an interview with David Kupule of Hana, Maui. He was taken to Kalaupapa for leprosey. Part of the interview also talks about testing with new medication. I often wonder if leprosy was in fact introduced here just for that purpose, to use the Kanaka as test subjects for new medicines and to have them perish so that foreigner's could obtain land through devious methods.The McBryde family did exactly that with Birch land on Maui and you can see the actual fudging of documents here:Fraud RevealedDavid Kupule alludes to the same thing happening with his families land in Hana. Had it not been for the fact that he actually survived in Kalaupapa the plantation may very well have succeeded.Anytime you are working on your Royal Patent, Court Certificate of Title - CT (de facto term is LCAw, kala mai we are not wards of any institution), or Royal Patent Grant do not stop at any de facto document...keep looking...especially if the document presented is in English. English is a demotion of Olelo and is not to be trusted. The de facto courts will tell you that when there is any discrepancy in an interpretation between English and Olelo, the English language will prevail. Why? Because they can take our language and reduce it to mere jibberish and drivel to suit their purposes. Olelo is always the document you go for. That's why I'm taking Olelo today.Here's the interview:"Oh, yeah, like the cord [trouble with cords in the leg], 'causeI used to be one of the ambulance driver and the hospital was notenough room, so you had to stay home, those who not very serious, nottoo bad. So, they had to stay home, and I had to go pick 'em up, takethem down, dress, j m u take 'em back. But, those who really bad,cannot walk, they had to stay in the hospital. This brother, when welook at, you know, we just come in the settlement, and we look howthe brother was doing. We take a peep how he was doing; we walkaway from there. We talk about the brothers they going get sicksomeday, this kind sick. But no, they didn't get sick until theydied or they went out. And today they find out that sick, you know,make me think of--you know--I live this old way and I think back.Maybe this is the thing that the Hawaiians they wait to die so theythought they would, like how always, you get in trouble with theland outside Hana.Maybe it's the thing that you'd lease the land to them, to the plantation, and it is an end.My grandfather died.Then they like own the land.If I didn't live this long, nobodywould know about the land we have in Hana.My niece was telling me,"Eh, you know all this name, by here, look at that?" She don't know,of course. I know my grandfather; I see him; before he died, I knowhim. He died 1903. I was a small little boy yet at the time, Iuse to run down to my grandfather's house, grandmother's house. Backand forth to my father's house or my mother's house. And my niecewas asking me if I know the name of this person. I look, "Gee,"I said, "this is our grandfather." Then he start telling me aboutHana land. Oh, get Hana.Then I start to think about all the Hawaiiansthat died over here [Kalaupapa]. When I first came over here, mostHawaiians, Oh, talk about Hawaiians, only few of other nations, butmost are Hawaiians."
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