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"It would be nice !"
"Samoa looks like it will get total independence from New Zealand by 1962. We want to keep Hawai'i for us. Wouldn't it be great if we could prove that Hawai'i had been annexed back in the 1800's ??"
"It would be nice."
"Obama is already serving as President ! Queen Kapi'olani Hospital is in the Hawaiian Kingdom. Wouldn't it be great if we could prove that Queen Kapi'olani Hospital is in the United States of America just like Pearl Harbor ??"
"It would be nice."
The United States of America is "biting on granite" here. It won't be "nice" if WE force the issue !The Reaction in a public State run University is remarkable. It is said that universities HAVE to put out students that are some 100 years behind in political orientation. Conversation in a common bar down the street from the local university is in real time but the university is reactionary. So a current event is a real problem for the university !! The university sometimes HAS TO take up a current story but watch how it immediately wraps the story up in retardant garb. " The government line" is what pops out in the transformation. The details that do NOT fit "the government line" are made to appear incredible; those that fit are beyond questioning. The story has gone just far enough to suit just certain purposes beyond which it seems far- fetched.
Mahalo nui loa to you, Leon Siu, for some independent analysis !! Imua to you !
"One of the problems is that of terminology." One of the problems is GUTS !!
Try wait and see how long it takes The UH Manoa Brain Trust to write a book on Obama's birth certificate ????? They are too busy Power- brokering !!
Aloha e Kaohi,
Many years ago (I think it was in 2000 or 2001) I also complained to the director (?) or someone at Vital Statistics about the omitting of original signatures & other pertinent info. which for whatever reason they decided to just change the version.
What really is the difference between the negative vs. positive? All recs. i've requested from them were copies but positive including my own birth but i remember seeing a classmate's one as a negative, unless that was an original and not a copy?
Leon,
Back tracking, we did lobby against the computerized birth certificate, I sent in a letter of complaint. It was in the 90s. I spoke to (?) director at that time and he realized the problem we were having to qualify for our successorship on DHHL as well as Kam. We had to pay $10 for all our negative BC which has all the signatures of my grandparents (dad born at home) and seal.
The computerized birht certificate at first did not have Hawaiian therefore when applying for Kam, DHHL, etc.. we needed to prove that we had Hawaiian. At that time it was against the equal amendment...it was a total mess. A lot of Na Kupuna went in to support the computer Birth Certificate, we finally got a stamp and I believe that too has changed. I am a great-grandmother and have a lot of certificates to manage for Kam and DHHL.
There has to be a negative certificate in 1961 as to why no one is questioning the whereabouts of the negative is beyond my comprehension. The
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