I decided to combine the 2 topics since they overlap each other. I previously wrote about Quantifying Hawaiians (pt. 2) and after that wrote about Haole Imposition relating to an incident in a forum for Hawaiian language.

There was this 82 year old man who was offended, I was told & badgered about, because of my swearing. But when i looked at this 82 year old man's complaint elsewhere it seemed to focus on the use of "White Man's Language" mentioned by someone else that had a response saying it's racists and where I ended up jumping in and made it worse because as you know, these outsiders do not like being called out and admitting that they're wrong.

So this guy Solomon Wyllie first mentioned that he went to that forum to learn what his mother taught him. But on his facebook account he mentioned his ethnicities, which were German, I think the other was French, but no Asian, definitely no Kanaka Oiwi roots in there. But why didn't surprise me that he'd be offended with that term - "White man's language?" After all, he IS white.

So he didn't like my response to him, which was actually nice, not combative at all, except I did reply to the original poster that Solomon wasn't offended at me swearing as told by another Haole who jumped into the conversation telling me that I should apologize to the 82 year old "kupuna" and that I should remove my posts and apologize to the owner of the site. Yes, a true haole-dictative & ego-driven person as we know them to be.

I did reply to the original poster in Hawaiian that apparently Solomon is NOT who he made himself out to be, although it is misleading and he never said that he wasn't Hawaiian, at least up until now. But first, he blocked his account so that now you can't see his bio where he listed his White ethnicities. Then he replied to nearly every post I had even when I didn't mention anything on relating to that topic, and badgered me till no end.

He called me boy and a punk, that I shouldn't teach Hawaiian. No, I don't teach Hawaiian. He kept on bringing up my Filipino side, mentioning that I live in California, unlike him, and therefore he is more Hawaiian than me. He mentioned my Filipino last name (forgetting my non-Filipino first name nor the fact that he has no Hawaiian name at all) and it goes on. I mean literally he was lashing out and angry. He said he saw 3 different wars in his lifetime, just reminding me of how much he's experienced compared to me.

Yes, this is the ego talking in all its glory. So what do these people do to save face? They quantify us! This is the only way they can assert & strengthen their feeling of self by reacting in this manner, trying to make us "less" of what they believe is "Hawaiian."

I always ask myself what is their motive other than wanting to look like the good guy, which is what he's doing by posting under every reply possible. Then I realize I've been talking about "ego" a lot, and that's all it is. Nothing more. Unfortunately we are caught in the cross fire and we are "quantified" because we somehow rubbed these Haoles the wrong way.

Because after all, the "Haole" way is the only way to be. Their ways, their perceptions, their way of living is how we all should be. This is what Solomon was upset about, not so much the use of "White man's language" which he claims was an old term, which I know it is, but the fact that it was someone finally speaking up against Haole-imposition.
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  • Charles...they're nuts. Like the Haoles, in the quest to prove that they're right, they undermine us. Geez.
  • Omg, there's another afrocentric video I saw of them claiming a scottish tribe as African. Will it ever stop?
  • I couldn't watch that video in its entirety the first time but obviously it was in reaction to my video. lol And more of them are doing the same exact thing like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5o5s_Pd1W4

    thotsins is another one. lol
  • Wow, I just watched this on youtube:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzkpkKy-0aY

    How stupid. I don't know why it's so hard for them to see how disrespectful that afrocentric attitude is. It's just as bad as when whites dismissed anything of any value in any other culture besides their own. I tried responding but I guess he has comments disabled. I didn't see the other the other video, Inside America.....
  • hahaha...aloha e Charles! Luckily it died down, but...more stuff is about to brew, it was on youtube under the video that I posted on FB, I think it was called "Inside America" or something like that. But the same, they try to be coy, saying that tourism is the best thing that happened but I gave them facts & the decline of it, not to mention the damage it has done to our culture & restrictions that tourism has had on our gathering rights, etc. Then that person mentioned Hawaiians on drugs. IN other words, he had nothing else better to say, like how Lee, Solomon and now Bethany are taking personal stabs at me. They do that YET say I make assumptions but do the same. They call me hypocritical too. lol

    But you said it, the KEY to communication is to WANT to understand the other person. You cannot dictate. lol But they don't like me saying dictate (just like my roommate) b/c to them, you are telling them not to tell you what to do but they see it as US telling them what to do. It's not like that. And they think that opposite too & have been doing that w/ that paternalistic attitude.
  • Oh my,is that convo still going on? lol. I just read the last comment posted by you. I can't believe they post stuff like this "The key to communication is to want to understand the other person." and yet don't do it themselves and take digs at you and latinos, native americans, assuming you drink beer and smoke cigs, etc....

    Knowing you for so long and seeing them say stuff like that is funny.
  • mahalo e Sharon. So true, respect isn't a title, it isn't something to tout around & boast about but rather it's earned. And those who earn it really show that they've earned it too.
  • Hui e Kalani;
    My parents always told me age should not be a determining factor for respect. Dont let someone elses hewa be yours, never claim anyone elses hewa, claim um own um. As I said before respect is earned. I would thing as a Native American he should know this. Maybe he should go walk the trail of tears and feel the energy of his ancestors. Just like I walk the trails of my ancestors and feel their presence. I cant walk the trail of tears, cause I dont live there, cause I am Cherokee too. When I read his response to you, you can feel the arrogance, but it is all his, not mine. Well, you take care and God bless. luv ya
    Sharon
  • Hui e Sharon...mahalo, that's what it was, I remember, thanks. I remember the Shawnee in there, but he never put Hawaiian but mentioned the language of his mother, but that could mean anything, he didn't say that he was learning Hawaiian which is what his mother spoke. But now he's not only pretending that he is "as much Hawaiian as I am" but tries to validate that fact by quantifying me, trying to make me less Hawaiian by bringing up my Filipino side and also adding geography to assert the fact that he is somehow more Hawaiian than me b/c, as he likes to say in other posts, I live in California while he lives in Hawaii.

    If he wants to learn Hawaiian, that's fine. But if he thinks Hawaiians should bend to HIS ways and he can belittle us in any way possible...he's doing it to the wrong person. He can argue w/ me all he wants, but he shouldn't have to apply it to everyone else in the forum simply b/c they're not speaking up against me. That's his ego lashing out.
  • By the by Kalani, he isn't hawaiian. He is Shawnee, Cherokee and German, unless he omitted the hawaiian, dont know. Anyway, enjoy the rest of the day. luv ya
    Sharon
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