NOTE: Do not be alarmed. I love life and plan on living as long as I joyfully want...this blog is the first posted as part of a series. I have yet to post "Iwi: Is Cremation Pono" and others.I've decided that when I die I would like to be cremated and have my ashes scattered in various places. I have selected these places because they are significant to who I am because of my race. These places are locations of where I have been through my ancestors.One of these places would be out at Ho'okipa Beach Park where I spent many family get togethers growing up and continue to do so although, not as frequently as before. These get togethers included my grandfather and grandmother and several of her brothers and sisters and their 'ohana, my fathers' brothers and sisters and their 'ohana and of course my father, mother and sisters. These almost weekly gatherings included at the least, 40 relatives. We spent the whole day there from early morning to late at night swimming, surfing, playing in the sand, playing dodgeball and volleyball, jumping rope, skateboarding and eating. Waiting at least thirty minutes after eating before swimming again seemed like an eternity, even though we were involved in some other activity besides waiting at the waters' edge. These days of my youth are cherished and this place is somewhere special where I wish to be remembered.Another place would be at a cemetery in Horton, Kansas where my maternal grandfather and grandmother are buried along with other famiy members. My grandfather was a woodcarver of animals, skilled in the bow and arrow and an excellent educator who often spoke at such places as Haskell Indian College and the University of Kansas. I last visited the Kickapoo Reservation three years ago for our annual Pow Wow. The dancing, drumming and singing and colorful regalia worn by various nations were just part of the gathering. Prayers of thanks and protection are given to our ancestors and the Great Spirit of Creation.Both of my fathers' grandfathers are from China therefore, this would be another place where I would like my ashes scattered. Although I have information in regards to the Provinces they are from, I have not yet determined a landmark where my ashes can be scattered.I have no idea of who would carry out my wishes but I hope that it can be done with love. Ideally I would like for my three sons to participate in this event so that it could be a sojourn to places where they come from. I don't want this to be a burden, but rather a journey of discovery.
Aloha e Lindafaye,
Mahalo for your comment. I went to the link you provided and totally support the efforts to stop the use of ammunition containing such DU substances. Actually I hope we can get our "ceded crown lands" soon so that we can use our aina for aloha purposes. I want the military out of Hawaii, ASAP!
Kingdom of Hawaii needs to happen now. Be sovereirgn. Will keep in touch... a hui hou...
Aloha from Hilo.
I'm a bit pressed for time but I'll be back later. As a nurse for 28 years I've seen a lot of death and been exposed to a lot of different beliefs concerning death, dying and burial. Being raised Catholic had there own rules. And through the years have developed my own ideas. I wanted to respond quickly because DU subject has come up. This I know something about, I am the spokesperson on DU for Kahu O Kahiko Inc. A Hawaiian non-profit organization in Kona. DU is the substance being spread around the world today By the US military and other military's that THREATENS THE EXTERMINATION OF ALL LIFE ON THIS PLANET! Please pardon me for shouting but it is THAT serious. I'll be back. Please view and pass forward follow other links...www.alfsartgallery.com/toxic_hawaii.html
A Hui Hou, Malama Pono
Lindafaye
Al0ha e Hwnwahine, Kaohi, and Amelia,
Mahalo for your manao.
Hwnwahine, there was a time (when I was a preteen)when I thought cremation was similar to burning in hell, but various studies of other religions and experiences have changed my view of such. I believe our soul continues to experience realms of dimensions beyond this world. My desire to be scattered in these various areas are ideas that I have at the present moment and perhaps my ideas will change as I experience more life and evolve. I guess I should talk to my sons about this to make sure it will not be a burden to them.
Kaohi-where can I find the film you spoke of with kumu John Lake and death and dying. Also what DU are you referencing to with Amelia.
Blessings of Aloha...
I know your are in PTS just stay in communication. Again, my apologies for exposing you to things that are so fricken incomprehensible. I have been in this situation with DU for a long time, so I have had different strategies to buffer the blow's. Thanks for being there for me with my conference calls, it wasn't easy to go up against the Pentagon, area code 202, although I've been there before five years pryor to 911. It still isn't easy. And from a makaainana standing too! I felt so alone!
Now you can see why, and where our fake Hawaiians are today. Nowhere to be found on the real battle front, and if they are on the battle front, who are they supporting? Maoli or the general public? Then comes the next question, who represents the Maoli women? You got eliminated, ask yourself why? Moore cannot represent us Native Hawaiian women, for one she is white, secondly she lives on Big Island not on Oahu. Which is why Linda is an important factor to our side of the coin. So get over the shocking and incomprehensive mental craziness and stay with me on the front line. It get's lonely and my new found 'Jack' is a great partner, but that doesn't help me in the deeper spiritual part of my body. Love you Kaohi
Amelia,
We need an open forum for DU. I can't post on your recent posting with Linda.
We will be paying respect to Mrs. Aiu this Sat. at Maili Beach here in Waianae. I'm going to work. I will be replacing Mrs. Aiu today at work. She was a sub-teacher and I will be working in her place. She died last week only too suddenly of lung failure. She's only 48.
She's one ashes that I don't mind incorporated into my body and swim around in!
Mahalo nui loa Tane and Kaohi for your manao. I have decided on cremation because of the disrespect given our ancestors' iwi when developers and our arch enemy archaeologists choose to unearth, bulldoze and desecrate our loved ones. It is so true when we say "We continue to be evicted from our lands; even when we are dead". Auwe...
We have been confrontated with the desecration of our iwi and it's no longer considered sacred by the belligerent occupiers. The alternate is cremation. The Masons customary form of burials were cremation and so were the atheists to defy the Church. That was the initial protest and Church ban on the issue of cremation. Cremation has become a form of expedience and making space for development. Today, it's a popular form of burial which counters the defiance to sacrilege of the iwi. A few did burial at sea without cremation; that was my option. After considering the options, I am more inclined tocremation and scattering of my ashes; but don't have a specific place since wherever in the islands would be most acceptable to me. I did think it would be cool to have a burial at sea whereby the fish could take a nibble of me and travel throughout the world since I've enjoyed traveling throughout the world. LOL... Then I thought that fish could be caught and some stranger would ingest me which is just as bad. My dilemma is where my ashes would be spread so that it wouldn't be desecrated in any form. It shouldn't matter since my soul is somewhere else that is most preferable. At least no one will be able to make fish hooks or use my iwi for any disrespectful way or capture my mana for their own purposes. Maybe a little bit of me on each island and beyond the 3-mile limit would be good. Who knows; I'll leave it to my family to decide.
I am a homsteader in Waianae Valley and we have been discussing cremation as oppose to burial. I expressed my thoughts to the group that it's okay for me that we cremate, however, coming from a strong christian background it was frowned upon by my mother's side of the family because of their religious beliefs. My mother's age group purchased graves, and my mother went deep 9' so that somone/others could be buried on top of her.
We discussed a bible verse somewhere in the King James version of the bible. I am too much of a sinner to know where this verse is. Do you know where this verse is?
What I am suggesting that one think about ones belief system so that family can agree upon your death preparations. As for cremation, that was part of our conversation because the association want to ask for DHHL for land to bury our Hawaiian Ohana near our homestead.
I gave the group my argument about spreading ashies off our shores in Waiane. The reason being is Haole's and foreigners are using our shores for their bed of rest. Our waters, fish that we eat and other things are also have dead people's ashes for dinner. Now, I saw this in the movies and I think I read this somewhere too. In China people eat other peoples ashes! So this topic is an exciting conversational piece. I know cause we had a great time talking about it. Again, I am opposing ashes being spread off our Waianae Coast unless they were born and raised in Waianae. Those ashes I can eat and swim with, but I don't want to swim everyday with non local and incorporate whatevah's in my body.
As I expressed myself with the group about swimming in ashes from other people, I told them that ashes are being scattered by commercial boats daily where I swim. Kaohi
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Mahalo for your comment. I went to the link you provided and totally support the efforts to stop the use of ammunition containing such DU substances. Actually I hope we can get our "ceded crown lands" soon so that we can use our aina for aloha purposes. I want the military out of Hawaii, ASAP!
Kingdom of Hawaii needs to happen now. Be sovereirgn. Will keep in touch... a hui hou...
I'm a bit pressed for time but I'll be back later. As a nurse for 28 years I've seen a lot of death and been exposed to a lot of different beliefs concerning death, dying and burial. Being raised Catholic had there own rules. And through the years have developed my own ideas. I wanted to respond quickly because DU subject has come up. This I know something about, I am the spokesperson on DU for Kahu O Kahiko Inc. A Hawaiian non-profit organization in Kona. DU is the substance being spread around the world today By the US military and other military's that THREATENS THE EXTERMINATION OF ALL LIFE ON THIS PLANET! Please pardon me for shouting but it is THAT serious. I'll be back. Please view and pass forward follow other links...www.alfsartgallery.com/toxic_hawaii.html
A Hui Hou, Malama Pono
Lindafaye
Mahalo for your manao.
Hwnwahine, there was a time (when I was a preteen)when I thought cremation was similar to burning in hell, but various studies of other religions and experiences have changed my view of such. I believe our soul continues to experience realms of dimensions beyond this world. My desire to be scattered in these various areas are ideas that I have at the present moment and perhaps my ideas will change as I experience more life and evolve. I guess I should talk to my sons about this to make sure it will not be a burden to them.
Kaohi-where can I find the film you spoke of with kumu John Lake and death and dying. Also what DU are you referencing to with Amelia.
Blessings of Aloha...
I know your are in PTS just stay in communication. Again, my apologies for exposing you to things that are so fricken incomprehensible. I have been in this situation with DU for a long time, so I have had different strategies to buffer the blow's. Thanks for being there for me with my conference calls, it wasn't easy to go up against the Pentagon, area code 202, although I've been there before five years pryor to 911. It still isn't easy. And from a makaainana standing too! I felt so alone!
Now you can see why, and where our fake Hawaiians are today. Nowhere to be found on the real battle front, and if they are on the battle front, who are they supporting? Maoli or the general public? Then comes the next question, who represents the Maoli women? You got eliminated, ask yourself why? Moore cannot represent us Native Hawaiian women, for one she is white, secondly she lives on Big Island not on Oahu. Which is why Linda is an important factor to our side of the coin. So get over the shocking and incomprehensive mental craziness and stay with me on the front line. It get's lonely and my new found 'Jack' is a great partner, but that doesn't help me in the deeper spiritual part of my body. Love you Kaohi
I did a Death and Dying filming with the late Kumu John Lake, it was shown on Olelo for two years. Kaohi
Amelia,
We need an open forum for DU. I can't post on your recent posting with Linda.
We will be paying respect to Mrs. Aiu this Sat. at Maili Beach here in Waianae. I'm going to work. I will be replacing Mrs. Aiu today at work. She was a sub-teacher and I will be working in her place. She died last week only too suddenly of lung failure. She's only 48.
She's one ashes that I don't mind incorporated into my body and swim around in!
Ashes remain, Kaohi
I am a homsteader in Waianae Valley and we have been discussing cremation as oppose to burial. I expressed my thoughts to the group that it's okay for me that we cremate, however, coming from a strong christian background it was frowned upon by my mother's side of the family because of their religious beliefs. My mother's age group purchased graves, and my mother went deep 9' so that somone/others could be buried on top of her.
We discussed a bible verse somewhere in the King James version of the bible. I am too much of a sinner to know where this verse is. Do you know where this verse is?
What I am suggesting that one think about ones belief system so that family can agree upon your death preparations. As for cremation, that was part of our conversation because the association want to ask for DHHL for land to bury our Hawaiian Ohana near our homestead.
I gave the group my argument about spreading ashies off our shores in Waiane. The reason being is Haole's and foreigners are using our shores for their bed of rest. Our waters, fish that we eat and other things are also have dead people's ashes for dinner. Now, I saw this in the movies and I think I read this somewhere too. In China people eat other peoples ashes! So this topic is an exciting conversational piece. I know cause we had a great time talking about it. Again, I am opposing ashes being spread off our Waianae Coast unless they were born and raised in Waianae. Those ashes I can eat and swim with, but I don't want to swim everyday with non local and incorporate whatevah's in my body.
As I expressed myself with the group about swimming in ashes from other people, I told them that ashes are being scattered by commercial boats daily where I swim. Kaohi