Possible sacred stone dedicated to Kane...

Aloha Everyone,

 

I am trying to help out a friend who is working on a farming project in Waimanalo. They just did the land clearing and found a fresh water spring and what may possibly be a sacred stone dedicated to Kane.

 

This project will teach self sufficiency and give back to the community. Yes, kalo will be grown and cultivated there. They have been receiving blessings from a Kahuna and the signs are there.

 

I don't exactly know where the project is yet. My friend needs to get back to me but what I do want to know if anyone has information on any sacred lands in the Waimanalo area. Any sacred springs or heiau that were dedicated to Kane or anyone other deity that is important to our culture.

 

If this is sacred land, this is a great find and a treasure. My friend and his project are going to do everything they can to protect the land and it's resources.

 

Please, if you have any information about the history of the land, let me know. This is the only way to preserve our culture. Hawaiians giving back to Hawaiians.

 

Mahalao nui loa...Malama Pono...

 

 

Hiapo Silva

 

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  • E kala mai, encountering some difficulty posting the link, you can access it by clicking on the blog, otherwise will try again 3rd time lucky:

     

    http;//kahea.org/blog/a-story-of-dispacement

  • http://kahea.org/blog/a-story of-dispacement
  • Aloha Kakou.

                               E Hiapo, Professor Candace Fujikane up at UH has an article on urbanization and future faming practices in Hawai'i on the Kahea blog, her mana'o me mo'olelo you may find of interest:

     

    http://kahea.org/blog/a-story-of-displacement

     

    -Aloha.

  • Aloha Kakou. 

                             E Hiapo, just curious any updates on the pohaku identification? Were there any identifying marks on the pohaku li'i'li?  

    The people at LEAF (if unaware) may be interested in a Hawaiian National run organic farm a couple of miles from the Nanakuli  proposed industrial development, the 24 acre farm has been a resounding success. Details here:

     

    http://www.maoorganicfarms.org/

     

    A little info on the soil type here:

     

    http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/tpss/research_extension/rxsoil/Vertisol...

     

    Another totally unrelated website worth a browse:

     

    http://earthtrot.org/

     

    Apologies for all the links, a hui hou.

  • Aloha Everyone,

     

    My apologies for the absence. Home Depot has gone into it's Garden Season. That means we work extra hard and later.

     

    Mahalo Andrew for the info on the book. I will look into it. I'm glad that you like what LEAF is doing. The  Waimanalo Project is the first pilot farm project by them. Hence, the need for any and all information that they can receive to do the right thing, the right way. There is another pohaku next to in about half it's size. I'll find the picture from my friend's site and post it here.

     

    Malama Pono,

     

    Hiapo

     

  • Aloha Kakou.

                               E Hiapo mahalo for the leaf Hawai'i link below, this is an excellent project. It was a pleasure to see the IHS involvement. Pity Kumu 'Ohukani'ohia has not signed in to MW for awhile as he has previously posted an article here on Maoliworld with photographs of pohaku.

    http://maoliworld.ning.com/profiles/blogs/kanaka-ai-pohaku

    There is a book by June Gutmanis titled "Pohaku: Hawaiian Stones." But have been unable to locate any photos from it  on the internet in order to identify this particular pohaku kahiko loa. -Aloha.

  • Aloha Kaohi,

     

    I'm sorry that you feel that I am a romantic and that I will not listen, I understand that natural division will exist. I am not a optimist but a realist, but I am also Hawaiian and being raised in Kalihi and trying to retain knowledge of our people has been a difficult one.

     

    My Hawaiian family name is Alapa, the same Alapa from Hawai'i that served Kalaniopu'u and fought alongside the Pi'ipi'i warriors on Maui. My 3rd grandfather's name was Oliva Alapa who married Emily Pahuaniani. Emily's mother name is Kealohanuikeanu, Ali'i Wahine of Kahana Valley, O'ahu who was a descendant is the descendant of Keohokalole, who was Ali'i Mo'i of Kahana.

     

    There is a lot more information about my ohana that my Auntie Dawn Wasson and others have researched over the years. I still have relatives that live in Kohala, Maui and Oa'hu and besides.

     

    I agree with you, in the fact that in order for the "Laulima Eco-friendly Alliance of Farms"(www.leafhawaii.org) 

    first pilot farm project to be successful, they need the truth about the land. The project is not romanticizing what could be there, they'd really like to what is there.

     

    While clearing the land with the back hoe, this 5 ft. rock was uncovered. If it's a rock, fine then it can be moved. They are looking for someone who can tell them if it is a "just a rock" or if it is something more. When they had discovered the fresh water spring, then the rock, that's when these questions came into mind.

     

    With the wealth of knowledge that you have and others like yourself, this is the right type of people need to clarify what could be a minor set back for the project to move forward. My roll in the project is just to help a friend who does not know where to look when handling what could be something more than they envisioned.

     

    He has his Hawaiian connections, but would like more facts ranging from what is best to grow in the lands of Ko'oluapoko and because he is a very spiritual person and revers our culture so much, if there is anything spiritual about the land, he does not want to upset the Hawaiian or the residing spirits that may exist. This is our plea for help, for information.

     

    As far as learning about our Kane, Ku, Lono and Kanaloa as well as our other gods and goddess, oh yes, I would like to know more. As I mentioned above, I was raised in Kalihi and city life does not offer much for completely dwelling into our culture as I had wish for when I was younger.

     

    I am a seeker of truth and hitting Anglo walls are very frustrating. My time spent with my Kupuna are always short and I try to retain as much as I can...and now I live in Seattle because of work. I visit home every two years. I've been here for 8 years. So, even more than ever, I am disconnected in a way that does not make me happy.

     

    I do thank you for the information that you give and your insight.

     

    As far as lichens, it looks as if the top may have some. We don't not know if this is a "Pohaku O Kane" but if it is, all precautions must and will be taken to not offend Kane. Hence the dire need to know. The project is trying it's best to be "offense free" but to do so they need valuable information.

     

    You mentioned Hi'iaka? Are they any markings that the project should be looking for? They are ecstatic about the land but treading lightly not to upset anyone as well.

     

    Well, if it's any consolation to you, the project does cares about Ko'olaupoko and the present land it is trying to develop for the farming of kalo and other produce. The project focus on assisting the homeless and offers to teach them how to grow their own food some that one may not go hungry. The linnk above is for the website of the project. It first started with two IHS shelters in downtown Honolulu. They've created two "Urban Gardens" on the rooftops of those facilities and have taught classes in horticulture from those locations. Several of it's graduates have "green jobs" and doing well. This project is, as I've mentioned the first pilot farm project. Their are a board of Hawaiian advisors within the project itself but they also welcome Hawaiians to be a part of it. That it one of the key principles...teaching Hawaiings to take great care of there lands.

     

    Mahalo again, for listening,

     

    Hiapo

  • check this out,

     

    The Kanaloa Logistics Officer Association was voted on and confirmed as the name of the Hickam Chapter Logistics Officer Association in June 2000. "Kanaloa" is a Hawaiian word and is said to be the god of the ocean depths and land of departed spirits. Kanaloa was endowed with strong and weak human traits and considered the eternal god. Today, Kanaloa is referred to as the god of eternal hope and guidance, bestowing understanding between all men and promising eternal happiness.

    Colonel Pamela Carter, PACAF/LGM, opened the first official Hickam LOA (herein referred to as Kanaloa) meeting on 9 Jun 00. Colonel Carter was unanimously voted in as President, Kanaloa Chapter and Colonel Stephen Ribbuffo, 15 LG/CC, was unanimously voted in as Vice President.

    Colonel Carter challenged the Chapter to build our LOA based on three pillars:
     
    - Networking and Fun
    - Organization Purple: invited all services as perspective members
    - Give back to the Community
    Recorded in September 2000 by Maj Axelbank.
    loa_small.gifThe Kanaloa Logistics Officers Association became affiliated with the LOA National in November 2000. Colonel Carter challenged the membership to become LOA National's largest chapter. As of Feb 01, we are well on our way to achieving this goal. On  2 Feb 01, General Lester Lyles, AFMC/CC, spoke to the LOA membership during a luncheon at the Hickam Officer's Club Daedalian room. General Lyles remarked about the importance of "logistics" today and stated that it is the most important facet of our military's fighting machine. General Lyles spoke about current initiatives in the logistics community to include the Chief's Logistics Review (CLR) program and its affects on the future of logistics. We were honored with the time Gen Lyles spent with us and he answered all our questions with candor. The LOA also voted in the affirmative for two projects proposed by Col Carter. The two projects are restoring a MIG-15 and having a fundraiser for the organization.
    Recorded in February 2001 by Maj Axelbank
    Kanaloa Logo
    The Kanaloa Chapter's emblem is unique to Hawaii's cultural history. It depicts the mythical god, Kanaloa, in kanaloacoin.gifthe sea with land forms on either side.

    Like the Kanaloa god, our logistics members work from the center of the Pacific, in concert with other prominent partners, and have a legendary impact on those who we work with on a continuous basis.

    The emblem is encircled by blue, representative of the skies that our great air force flies. The text merely identifies our chapter.

    About the Hawaiian God, Kanaloa

    By Kort Kramer on Flickr © All Rights Reserved.Kanaloa is one of the four great gods of Hawaiian mythology, along with Kāne, Kū, and Lono. He is the local form of a Polynesian deity generally connected with the sea. Roughly equivalent deities are known as Tangaroa in Aotearoa, Tagaloa in Sāmoa, Tangaloa in Tonga, and Taʻaroa in Tahiti.

    In the traditions of ancient Hawaiʻi, Kanaloa is symbolized by the squid or by the octopus, and is typically associated with Kāne in legends and chants where they are portrayed as complementary powers (Beckwith 1970:62-65). For example: Kāne was called upon during the building of a canoe, Kanaloa during the sailing of it; Kāne governed the northern edge of the ecliptic, Kanaloa the southern; Kanaloa points to hidden springs, and Kāne then taps them out. In this way, they represent a divine duality of wild and taming forces like those observed (by Georges Dumezil, et al.) in Indo-European chief god-pairs like Odin-Tyr and Mitra-Varuna, and like the popular yin-yang of Chinese Taoism.

    Kanaloa is also considered to be the god of the Underworld and a teacher of magic. Legends state that he became the leader of the first group of spirits "spit out" by the gods. In time, he led them in a rebellion in which the spirits were defeated by the gods and as punishment were thrown in the Underworld.

    However, depictions of Kanaloa as a god of evil, death, or the Underworld, in conflict with good deities like Kāne (a reading that contradicts Kanaloa and Kāne's paired invocations and shared devotees in Ancient Hawaii) are likely the result of European missionary efforts to recast the four major divinities of Hawaiʻi in the image of the Christian Trinity plus Satan. In traditional, pre-contact Hawaiʻi, it was Milu who was the god of the Underworld and death, not Kanaloa; the related Miru traditions of other Polynesian cultures confirms this.

    Ref:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanaloa

     

    kanaloa.jpgKanaloa was a Hawaiian primordial god from antiquities, and was the deity for the ocean, it's animals, fresh water, salt water, and all the growth on earth and in the sea. The whale is the largest ocean form, and a majestic manifestation of Kanaloa. From the ivory of this creature, the highly prized niho palaoa was worn by the Ali`i (Chiefs) of high rank. The scarcity and beauty of the niho lei palaoa and its connection to Kanaloa brought mana (spiritual power) to the carver, to the pendant itself, and eventually to the wearer of the pendant. The ALI`I possessed this kinolau or body form of this great god, would themselves acquire the characteristics, intelligence and knowledge of the god. Therefore, it would be advantageous for any Ali`i to secure the ivory whale tooth of this Kanaloa body form.

    buttonofficers.gifRef: http://www.magialuna.net/godk.html

    last updated: 02/07/2011

     

    copyright © 2000 - 2011 Kanaloa Chapter

  • aloha Silva,

    I hear the romance  from you and others each day.  However one lacks the 200 years I have in my family beginning with KamI, but not necessarily the Kumulipo beginning. 

     

    In truth I really don't care at this point whether you get my meaning and understanding of the actual division and the ones that you will encounter in your journey.

     

    I am Dr. George Kanahele's Ku Kanaka haumana tell that to Momi next time you see her and she will guide you into standing tall. 

     

    There is a division and I believe you seem to resist that natural division.  I have been working diligently to bring that division to a peaceful grounding.  On Saturday, I was at Makua preparing a hookupu for our youths to be placed on an ahu to bring the young people to the steps of our natural spirits in peace.  I was also encouraging my girlfriend to stay and chant the young people in--she did.  One can check with Pono Kealoha.  I also brought my Kupuna Lei Momi Mookini to the situation because of the strong Parker Ranch..(long story) and the military. And too, Pono Kealoha asked me to go to Pokai bay to hear Mahealani's group speak and I did.  In their disagreement, I managed to speak to the 'fishermen's lock' when life gets you down.  I then took Pono Kealoha to the tomb of the unknown two crypts of iwi.

     

    Two weeks before this we went to Kukaneloko (birthing rocks) to chant and share the brithing stones with my grandson and my girlfriends grandson they are 4, and 5.

     

    The week after we were at Ulupo because my girlfriend is John Lake's ohana to explain the connection between Koolaupoko and Waimea and Waianae and too malama the division that is in the minds of the modern day minds, but not the days of Long Ago.  I also took my girlfriend to my fathers place so that she can see the remaining evidence of the 'niaupio'. 

     

    I did this because on March 27, she and Pilipo was up at Sam Lono's Place where one can see the Pyramid rock (Ku and Hina), and so there was a lot of explaining to do. I also took her for a ride through Waimanalo and explained the things that I know and its connections to what transpired from Kam I to the chiefs and Paao. 

     

    I will be up at Nuuanu, I hope to see you there since you want to engage in Koolaupoko without too much knowledge of Long Ago. 

     

    There is much to learn about Kane in Koolaupoko, but without the 'niaupio' ones trail will dry up in the Anglo trail of decit.  From what I am reading that is where you are right now.

     

    The waterways are drying up, being poision with toxic chemicals and I believe will be causing the many deaths it once did in the famine years that came to Koolaupoko of Long Ago.  My grands kept the enitre Koolaupoko and Koolauloa in place.  Unlike my grands, I do not have the leadership needed to do this the work that needs to be done.  In every household in Waimanalo we experienced premature deaths, it somehow skipped a generation (much more to talk).  One can go to Kaiona Beach Park and see the memorial names on the pohaku...proof of what I just said. 

     

    Mihi, in truth I don't care if one listenes...and do ones research beyond the romance of the patriarch (mahu) and their anglo relationships, what's important that one tread lightly on the deity of Kane so that the waterways can heal and not split the hydro from the aina and its systems.  We need Ku and Hina to hold together the other natural systems so that the taro patches are in fallow remain and not turn into a developers tap water systems. 

     

    The modern romance and the anglos have a seemingly relationship, its all in the libraries in abstract form.   Not a mystery, does your Pohaku of Kane have lichens?  And too, have you found Hiaaka?  I know where she is approximately but haven't gone there to see her. 

     

    McCallister and others were sly foxes and did wonders in saying that we had abandon our way of life, which is my imediate concern for Koolaupoko.  In truth, I really don't care if ones listen and take it to mind (po'o).  I get tired from the romantics and their sexual descent into the abyss. 

  • Aloha Everyone,

     

    Mahalo Pomaikaiokalani for your encouragement. Mahalo goes out to Andrew as well, who has set me up with some possible leads.

     

    Hawaiians, please let us not be divided. There are those of us that are just trying to bridge that gap that has been lost throughout our people. I am not trying to make waves, I am trying to learn. Seeking out Kupuna and Kumu that can pass any knowledge of our precious culture unto us.

     

    My dear Kaohi, I hope that you can trust in me that what I say is out of inquiry of this stone, the fresh water spring and the very land itself. There are books that have published the teachings of Mary Kawena Pukui, correct? Also, of Samuel Kamakau who teach us of our beloved deities. Based on descriptions, I have only inquired not claimed that this was a Pohaku o Kane.

     

    This is what we are desperately are trying to find out so that proper procedure are being made to handle this project. A Mrs. Kanoe Cazimero, younger sister The Brothers Cazimero had blessed the project and her husband is the gentlemen heading up the farming of the taro. But if this is just farming land then there should be no problem because it serves to give back to the community, Hawaiians and the homeless as well.

     

    However, if this is sacred land, greater care has to be taken into consideration for this project to be successful. The goal of this project is about being self sufficient, giving back and lending that helping hand where the "so-called leaders" of Hawai'i have lacked and left everyone divided.

     

    King David La'amea Kalakaua wanted Hawai'i to be governed by Hawaiian hands so that all in Hawai'i may not suffer. This, by his life's example, he tried his best to do. He tried to to live up to Kamehameha I's standards. This Merrie Monarch of our Kingdom was a great man. Let us try our best to unite and carry out his wishes and goals.

     

    Hawaiians vs. Hawaiians...A'ole, it hurts me to see it...

     

    We(my friends and I) just want the blessings of our people and we are only seeking knowledge so that we may do the right thing for Hawai'i's people. Let's bring the jobs that Hawai'i needs to Hawai'i's people and by establishing self sufficient farming communities that produce goods for Hawai'i and beyond, maybe we'll finally have another fighting chance.

     

    Please forgive me of any offenses that may have occurred in this reply...

     

    A hui hou Everyone and Malama Pono,

     

    Hiapo

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