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My responses to Braddah Kai

Posted by Ululani on October 27, 2009 at 4:30am
For my family and friends who like know:Note that I use "haole" to mean "American or European" learned from my Hilo Grandma who spoke fluent Hawaiian to me. She is also the reason why I eat poi, ake, aku palu, oio, etc. However I realize that most Americans speak only ONE language (English) so they are not used to someone who combines more than one language because they only speak one language.I should add too that I am hapa Hawaiian hapa Haole and married haole. There is nothing wrong with BEING HAOLE!For example when I greet some Hawaiians I do NOT share my ha with them and do not want their ha mixing in with mine because some people are pilau to other Hawaiians --- so it is not just a HAOLE thing. It is a DISRESPECTING HAWAIIANS THING. I am not cool with that.To me being pilau to Hawaiians is BAD.I really like Pomai. Recently his hanai HAOLE son posted this:---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"Where were you(Those who live on O'ahu).....?Now if you were working or needed to attend to matters of 'ohana, you did your part. But if you weren't.......and only you know.....Where were you on October 23rd, 2009 around 10am on? The State Capitol was the site of a Ku'e against the Furloughs the State(Fake) enforced with the consent of Governor Lingle and the corresponding unions. Where were you standing against the gross injustice done to our children? I was there holding two flags amongst My Kupuna and my Fellow Hawaiians of ALL races with indifference to Koko. Their Spirit was Pono. The Kuleana in the air was Pono.Where were you Sunday evening October 25th, 2009 when mana'o was being shared on how to rectify useage of 'Iolani Palace Grounds IN 'Iolani Palace? A small number of us showed up AT 'Iolani Palace to speak with the Heir with a Direct Claim to the Throne, His Highness Prince Quentin Kawananakoa, about this matter. If I couldn't get in, I'd would have waited outside to know the mana'o of His Highness and of those who got in. We had plenty of chairs and a willing Heir with Direct Claim to the Throne to hear his people's mana'o."http://www.maoliworld.com/profiles/blogs/where-were-youthose-who-live------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Unfortunately he does not allow comments other than from Pomai who I really like so this is my answer which is stating the obvious as usual:MOST HAWAIIANS WHOM I KNOW work not one but TWO OR THREE JOBS. Some risk their jobs if they were to ever appear at a protest.By the way I was there at the parade for the queen on August 21st for those who could not be there.No... I do NOT want someone dissing HAWAIIANS who work to survive THAT WAY. The Hawaiian Kingdom is composed of the PEOPLE which INCLUDES HAWAIIANS. Dissing Hawaiians who WORK IN ORDER TO SURVIVE?!!?!?!?! ASSHOLES!It doesn't end there. He responded to my response about dog parks and yes dogs parks ARE a haole thing where haole is being used as "American or European" like how my Hilo Grandma spoke in FLUENT HAWAIIAN to me ever since I was a little girl. THAT is why I can understand what some people are saying LOL:----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"Ululani, I agree that Hawaiian children are being done a disservice. Kupuna Pomaikaiokalani and I went this last friday to the Capitol to protest the furloughs of schools on fridays. I personally quit school at age 15 when my teachers wouldn't teach. Over half of the class was failing English class, many whom got B's and A's not to long before a particular teacher failed at her job. So I know the value of knowledge and when schools shirk it, I notice immediately. I am sorry I didn't see you or Kaohi there.Ululani, you appear to be blinded by race....how UNHawaiian. And go ahead and use Haole loosely. I know it's common useage is for white people, but I will choose to think that you used it in definition of foreigner, unless you tell me otherwise. One who speaks in such a way does a disservice for the Native Hawaiians. If you let such hewa Kuleana make your maka blind, 'cause if you do, I shall hope that you do not let the Spirit hit you in the Okole as you rely on your Koko to carry your spirit."This was my response:"Aloha mai e Kai.I read your latest blog post asking where people were.:http://www.maoliworld.com/profiles/blogs/where-were-youthose-who-liveYou seem to be a cool person so I will tell you why.Most Hawaiians whom I know work not one but two or THREE jobs. They do not have the luxury of appearing at every protest.In addition they stand to lose their livelihood so many Hawaiians do not risk risking the lives of their children if their empoyer were to ever find out.Secondly... about the Haole thing. I speak some Hawaiian.I use "haole" to mean "American or European"... and just so that you know... I am haole too.It is NOT a race thing. It is a Hawaiian language thing. If you have a chance please take the time out to learn the language before you tell some people who speak Hawaiian that it is a race thing. Perhaps that is what YOU see but it is NOT a race thing.Thirdly "UnHawaiian?"No offense Kai but you may want to read about Hawaiian history before you tell ME that it is "unHawaiian." Hint: I come from a line of WARRIORS. and from some ancestors who spoke more than one language. NO OFFENSE e Kai but I speak more than one language which is more than most Americans speak which is one language... English so BEFORE you go off on me in public... read some Hawaiian history first before you say that it is "UnHawaiian." When you do... it shows ignorance and you seem to be cool showing up at some protests with Pomai but saying things that I am "unHawaiian" reveals your ignorance about Hawaiian history so when you do and you are protesting some people not just Hawaiians look at you and think that you are ignorant then you state things like that.Last but not least whatever you do please do not ever talk down to me. I appreciate your joining the cause and appearing at some protests but do not mistakenly think that that makes you more active than me because you do not know what I do.Mahalo. "http://www.maoliworld.com/profiles/blogs/dog-park-planned-for-sacred?id=2011971%3ABlogPost%3A226894&page=2#comments---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------With all due respect to haole people as in "American or European" THIS is why while I appreciate some joining our cause NO ONE understands how it feels like to be oiwi so for those haole people who think that they speak for me... you DO NOT speak for me.

It is an iwi thing.

I realize that some haole people do not understand that because they only speak English but iwi is NOT race. It is THE BONES so if those do not understand "iwi" and that it is significantly different from koko then no... DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME. Don't act like you do either.It kind of reminds me of Ken Conklin who focused on the koko and NOT ON THE BONES.By the way my sign was the one that said "OLA NA IWI."Thus an inherent problem with some non-oiwi.NO OFFENSE to Braddah Kai but while I appreciate some non-oiwi's dedication to the cause on a HUMAN level some non-oiwi get involved without knowing the significant difference between KOKO and IWI. There are also some non-oiwi who get involved with the "cause" then co-opt it then act as though it is THEIR cause. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.However it does not surprise me but our kupuna have been protesting for the last 200 or so years!It is SO typical though that the Hawaiian causes end up basically being about THEM and/or THEIR causes.Stupid games. (Fortunately key people are focused and are doing the right thing and making things HAPPEN. Some of them do NOT show up at protests. However they DO and I not going say what but wow... my kupuna let me know and I AM SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!)By the way... my husband IS haole with blonde hair and blue eyes and knows the significant difference between KOKO... and IWI. However he does not make the same mistake as Braddah Kai and act as though the Hawaiian causes are HIS causes just because he is married to ME. That is being married to a Hawaiian does not "entitle" him to anything... nor does being hanai-d but some people have that mentality that because they are included in some way that it entitles them to TELL US WHAT TO DO LOL Fortunately my HAOLE HUSBAND with blonde hair and blue blue eyes is not LIKE THAT. Instead he is RESPECTFUL. THAT is why I married him LOL... which surprises some people but not all HAOLE people are disrespectful.



Then my other response after he posted it in the forum section:--------------------------------------------------------------------------Aloha kaua e Braddah Kai.While I appreciate you showing up at some protests you do know that Hawaiians have been protesting for the last 200 or so years right? Most Hawaiians whom I know work two usually three jobs. Some of them work FOUR JOBS.Where were they?!?!?! NO OFFENSE but who are YOU to judge them for SURVIVING???Unlike YOU some work two or three sometimes FOUR JOBS. Some of them are unable to show up because they risk losing their jobs thus money to buy food to feed their keiki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NO OFFENSE but show some DAMN RESPECT FOR HAWAIIANS WHO BUST THEIR ASS WORKING TWO, THREE... SOMETIMES FOUR JOBS IN ORDER TO SURVIVE.How dare you insult their WORK and that they CHOOSE TO WORK. It does not make them less Hawaiian. NO OFFENSE but HOW DARE YOU DISS THEM PUBLICLY.Aue Braddah Kai! How can you purport to fight for the Hawaiian Kingdom then INSULT SOME OF ITS PEOPLE WHEN THEY BUST THEIR ASS TO WORK IN ORDER TO FEED THEIR FAMILY.I notice that you mention koko but not IWI. In fact not ONCE do you mention IWI.It sounds like Ken Conklin who focuses ONLY on the koko/blood. Some of us focus on the IWI which makes us OIWI.NO OFFENSE but I really think you should spend time studying the Hawaiian language instead of posting some ignorant comments like that because when you talk about koko only it shows that you do not know what you are talking about.Lastly while I appreciate you protesting... do not continue to make the mistake that since you have been protesting that it is YOUR cause now. It's not. It is OUR CAUSE. I can understand that you are passionate but don't make the mistake of claiming ownership now which is typical of the haole way where some haole people co-opt other causes and make it their own so that THEY can benefit.And NO haole is not a race thing. "Haole" as in "American or European." I highly suggest that you take the time to learn another language. Most Americans only know how to speak English. It would be an asset to learn Hawaiian so that you know what we are talking about when we say IWI and HAOLE.Also when you post things like"the Heir with a Direct Claim to the Throne, His Highness Prince Quentin Kawananakoa"you insult MANY PEOPLE (not just Hawaiians) in the process.PLEASE... LEARN THE LANGUAGE AND OUR HISTORY BEFORE YOU COMMENT ON SOME THINGS. You end up insulting some of the very people whom you purport to be helping. Some of your comments also ends up undermining OUR CAUSES.Mahalo for your dedication and mahalo to Pomai for hanai-ing you... but this is not YOUR cause.INSTEAD IT IS OUR CAUSE. (Kakou Concept.) It's not just about YOU and what YOU have done compared to others.By the way that shows me that perhaps you are doing it for YOU and not for ALL OF US on the human level --- which is not a good sign.I agree with Kaohi.Perhaps you DO need to find help because WE do not need people like you who boast about themselves and insult others for not showing up... and do so PUBLICLY for the WORLD TO SEE as this is a public post. AUE! is all I can say but I hope you DO find what you are looking for.However DO NOT DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE LIVES OF HAWAIIANS AND DO NOT STEP ON HAWAIIANS IN ORDER TO CONQUER YOUR DEMONS DUE TO SERVING THE U.S. MARINESbecause you WILL lose.Research "Ka'u ku Makaha" and "Molokai pule o'o" for more information.Mahalo and e malama pono.----------------------------------------------------------------------Some KEY people who read what I write tell me... wow! They always mention that they can't believe that someone who is so HAPA HAOLE can be so PRO-HAWAIIAN haha They laugh... when they read EVERYTHING that I write/right.They do not make themselves known though and I do not make them known :PLatahs!
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  • Kaapuikinaea October 27, 2009 at 10:13am
    Kai & Ululani,

    I think Lana has a good point, and that Haole & DUMB Haole are not one of the same. My Haole cousins talk about them being Haole all the time. It's just something they've grown up with, but not used negatively. But then again, it's probably b/c they're seen as the typical local person, a true kamaaina rather than outsiders.
  • Ululani October 27, 2009 at 10:07am
    Aloha kaua e Braddah Kai.

    It's because you extrapolate "Haole" to mean "dumb haole" but they are NOT mutually exclusive. BEING haole is NOT a bad thing. By the way I am hapa haole and married HAOLE so like I mentioned before... you may want to learn the language before you extrapolate some words.

    More importantly I have no problem with people expressing their mana'o like how you did in your post but instead of saying, "I was there and for those who were unable to attend I WAS THERE FOR YOU."

    Instead you came off as an asshole to Hawaiians.

    E malama pono!
  • Kaapuikinaea October 27, 2009 at 9:51am
    Actually it really started from Captain Cook in 1778 - 1779. Hawaiian share their aloha by touching nose-to-nose and inhaling or essentially sharing each other's breaths or honoring as a truthful person.

    aloha mai kaua e Kaewaokalani,

    The story I've heard was that it goes back to the time of Paumakua. Here's a link I found to the statement I remember which was: "Ka haole nui, maka alohilohi, ke a aholehole, maka aa, ka puaa keokeo nui, maka ulaula". Paumakua lived in the 13th century, 5 centuries before Cook arrived.

    http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Paumakua_of_Oahu
  • Kaewaokalani October 27, 2009 at 9:41am
    Aloha Kai and Ululani,

    Wouldn't help reading your blogs. Ha-ole really mean "no breath" it doesn't really mean foreigner either. The american edit into their dictionary back in 1865. Actually it really started from Captain Cook in 1778 - 1779. Hawaiian share their aloha by touching nose-to-nose and inhaling or essentially sharing each other's breaths or honoring as a truthful person. White only do with a hand shake and the hawaiian didn't feel that some of the white people where honorable or honest people. The correct word for foreigner or Imigration is "Malahine" because grandparent and other family used that word Malahine alot when I was young. Today they use the word haole to most of the white people because they can't be trusted.
    We grew up so much in a westernize ways now we need to sway ourselves back with an open heart and mind. Remebering what ours ancestor where trying to tell us.

    Aloha (Peace to both of you)

    Mahalo, Kaewaokalani

    Ha ole: no breath
    Malahine: foreigner or Imigration
    Kama aina: child born in hawaii(but not a kanaka maoli)
  • Kaapuikinaea October 27, 2009 at 9:11am
    Good blog Lana. I know I've discussed this (maybe you might have seen it) issue in the past before with 1st Nations people on how there is a difference, a big difference when non-indigenous people get involved in our struggle. It's fine if they are asked to assist us in any way, but there's a fine line as far as people volunteering to help us with other motives in mind. That could be anything from self-gratification of any sort (ego boosting, recognition by academia, etc.) to actually making a difference to actually being SUPPORTIVE.

    I know you personally have been mentioning in the past how people like to dictate to us what's best for us regarding things that would benefit us and not them. But why do they constantly feel the need to be so paternalistic? And to say what is or isn't Hawaiian? I've been through that many times, because people will say that if I don't eat the type of foods they eat, therefore I'm not Hawaiian. If I don't dance the dances that they dance, I am not Hawaiian. I don't go around telling people that if they don't speak Hawaiian, they are not Hawaiian. Because we cannot really pick & choose certain aspects and determine or not if it fullfills some bogus quantitive requirement to justify if we are or aren't Hawaiians. This is what bothers me.

    And remember, we've had a couple of people (without mentioning names) that, in their own minds, feel that we have to fight their particular fights in order to have a right in say regarding Hawaiian issues. That's like what you brought up recently of how "outer-island judges" who would be used in determining who would win a constest for Molokai students who could find the best eco-savvy solution (actually it was self-sufficiency thing) for MOLOKAI. It was NOT for Oahu or any other island. So why the need to have a contest with outer-island judges?

    This constant "dictating" and "paternalistic attitude" is a constant salt in the wound for me.
  • Ululani October 27, 2009 at 9:09am
    Aloha kaua e Pomai.

    I HIGHLY respect you.

    I always will.
  • Pomaikaiokalani October 27, 2009 at 9:05am
    ALOHA Kaua, e Ululani, As a Kupuna Kekapukainohea "Braddah Kai" is more then a Hanai Son. Kekapukainohea is of My Spirit. The Spirit of me, my Grandmother and those of my Ohana from the beginning of time.
    When Kekapukainohea first asked me about being his Kupuna, I explained to him that I look at being a Kupuna to be very sacred. As his Kupuna I would share with him all the ALOHA that my Grandmother as my Kupuna shared with me as a child.
    Recently Kekapukainohea went with his Mom to his hometown on the continent. Before leaving Hawaii Kekapukainohea told me that he did not want to leave Hawaii. But I felt it was good for him to go home to his home town and be with his Ohana there. Kekapukainohea has made the sacrifice in returning home. Home being the Hawaiian Kingdom, not the FAKE State of Hawaii.
    Like me, Kekapukainohea also wants to renounced his citizenship to the United States. Like me, Kekapukainohea enjoys holding the flags of the Hawaiian Kingdom every where we go. Especailly protecting the rights of our people, all of our people.
    Because of Kekapukainohea I now walk the path as a Kupuna.
    When Kekapukainohea told me that he wanted a Hawaiian name, I went to my Grandmother for a name. Like in life, my Grandmother always was there for me when I needed her for any reasons. Kekapukainohea is the name that my Grandmother shared with me.
    In December I'll be 71. As his Kupuna Kekapukainohea has given me a stronger reason to continue the path that I've walked alone in the revival of our nation, the Hawaiian Kingdom. The lawful government of Queen Liliuokalani. Long Live The Hawaiian Kingdom, o Pomai
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