Posted by Kaapuikinaea on February 15, 2009 at 5:25am
Ululani and I were talking about the recent events, concerning genealogies printed in the newspaper and its significance, and how some had to prove, or others had disproved familial connections. It basically mirrored what was going on now and then, and ironically I'd find reference of it going on back in 1901. Then I told her of how Kamakau mentioned in his book of how defamation of one's genealogy was used, but it was pointed out how it shouldn't be that way. I promised that I'd look for that passage. Although I didn't realize I had it bookmarked already, I swore there was another passage that actually mentioned why it wasn't such a good idea, and that basically it was due to the fact that they were all related. In any case, the citing of Kamakau's passage from his book which was taken from old newspapers (which I reference and link at the very bottom) is good enough to prove my point. Perhaps later if I do come across that other passage I'll post it.In any case, this is taken from Tales & Tradition of the People of Old - Na Moolelo a ka Poe Kahiko, page 80.=========Genealogies were of great importance to the chiefs of ancient times. They took care of people who knew genealogies – lest they be scorned, ho’okae ‘ia, or be regarded as “juniors,” ho’okaikaina ‘ia; or as the “youngest,” ho’opoki’i ‘ia; or as servants, ho’okauwa ‘ia; lest they be called by insulting names, kuamuamu inoa ‘ia; lest they be said to be “red-eyed outcasts,” makawela.In the days of warring or of great trouble, the genealogies living with the chiefs would explain relationships and end the trouble. You have heard that when Kamehameha and Keoua the son of Kalani’opu’u were at war, they defamed each other. By the action of those who knew the genealogies, this evil was ended. Defamation was a cause of great shame to the chiefs in ancient times. That is why they cared for genealogies.To commoners, genealogies were of no value because their parents forbade them to act like chiefs or to have children born in the back country who would trace their ancestry up to the chiefs (pi’i aku in a ‘li’i). So the children of the maka’ainana were taught only the names of their fathers, mothers, and grandparents.When one was reviled and called a red-eyed outcast, makawela, he would blunder about, he puna ka ho’a’a, and talk ramblingly of ancestors as those words came forth.Aloha ‘ia ‘oe e ala hokahokaE kena ‘ilio lepo ikiE na kauwa makawelaKapa kahiko o Na’alehuKi’ina aku a ‘umi ‘iaNa manu ala kahiko i koeKe kulolia a alo makaniNoho lae o Ku’ou’ouLukulukua iho, lukua ihoAlas for you on the path of frustrationYou small dirty dogRed-eyed outcastsAge-old residents of Na’alehu[Were] fetched and strangledBirds of the ancient way remainEnduring the force of the windLive at cape Ku’ou’ou (Bowed Head)Destroy, destroy themTo us of this day, the genealogies of the chiefs are of no value – we have no large claim, kuleana nui, in them. However, in our thoughts, they are of great value. We have gone into them and found that the chiefs valued chiefs and ancestors, and we are enriched by our knowledge. It used to be kapu for the maka’ainana to know these things. But because of the advances in learning and the cleverness of the children of the maka’ainana, forbidden areas have become “free,” noa, and can be gone into. What remains to us of our ancestors is valuable.==============For those who would like to read the original in Hawaiian, see KA NUPEPA KUOKOA - Oct. 7, 1865, 2nd column, starts with HE WAIWAI NUI in the 6th paragraph.
uh...no comment on anything else, before people use it against us and saying Hawaiians (I'm actually a Molokaian, but whatevah lol) cannot come together. lol
Speaking of Oahumakaewaewa, while reading Keanu Sai's dissertation (still not pau) I was reading about the whole usurping of kingdoms, I guess you could call it that. Kahekili, Kamehameha, Keoua, Keawemauhili, Kiwalao, Kaeo, and Kalanikupule of course, the whole Oahu island and I thought of makaewaewa too for whatever reason. Dunno why. hoailona maybe. lmao
Yeah well I still cannot figgah out how she can say some of the things she says. If anyone were to be oki'd it would be her... NOT those who fight for title and thus for land but HER! LMAO
You would think too that she O'ahuan cuz O'ahu makaewaewa but no... she is from another island educated on O'ahu. It's people like her who make other O'ahuans look bad LOL
And no das not being mean. I don't know of one thing she has done to TRULY help other oiwi without expecting anything in return.
Wait let me see... has she helped other oiwi in any way instead of helping herself get awards and/or recognition? Nope LOL She has not helped one oiwi with genealogy? Nope! Title? Nope!
She did it all for recognition so yeah...
I going call them Dorothy and Otot from now on LOL
She annoys me more though because she should know bettah den dat! Dorothy... in Wizard of Oz. You know like she LOST and needs to find her WAY BACK HOME LOL So Dorothy and TOTO aka OTOT because his mind and thus thought processes are uh BACKWARD and uh SMELLY??? LOL
lmao I can't believe you wrote otot. hahahaha stink otot...that was our favorite phrase before growing up. Why...dunno, as if it doesn't stink anyway...toto that is. LMAO
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Oh gawd... I cannot stop laughing.
You would think too that she O'ahuan cuz O'ahu makaewaewa but no... she is from another island educated on O'ahu. It's people like her who make other O'ahuans look bad LOL
Wait let me see... has she helped other oiwi in any way instead of helping herself get awards and/or recognition? Nope LOL She has not helped one oiwi with genealogy? Nope! Title? Nope!
She did it all for recognition so yeah...
I going call them Dorothy and Otot from now on LOL
She annoys me more though because she should know bettah den dat! Dorothy... in Wizard of Oz. You know like she LOST and needs to find her WAY BACK HOME LOL So Dorothy and TOTO aka OTOT because his mind and thus thought processes are uh BACKWARD and uh SMELLY??? LOL
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