Worse when that attitude comes from yet another Hawaiian. And why Colette Machado is still voted as a trustee I will not understand. I received OHA's Ka Wai Ola paper yesterday. Here's a link to the article I'm referring to that made me so upset.http://www.oha.org/kawaiola/2008/05/col-machado.phpIt's entitled "Moloka'i's real loss". Real loss? Here are some things I'm quoting with my own "translation" from that article that really got me upset.But first the residents of Moloka'i need to face reality. And it has to start with those who oppose any economic development.Translation: Molokai needs to be developed, that's the reality!The strident voices talk of subsitence farming and living off the land. Some can do that. But it's not a solution, and the activists know it. Most residents need jobs with benefits.Translation: Since people will not leave the island for economic opportunity, we need to bring it to the island. Living off the land is great for farmers and Hawaiians nowadays can't cut it by living off the land. Because many of "Molokai's jobs" have great benefits! (sarcism)..the missing piece in our economy is investment in a primary enterprise that can generate jobs.Translation: Nothing in the past has been successful for the island's economy because of Molokai's consistent stance against developement. Only this offer would've proven the be very successful, like with everything else that has happened in the past. (again sarcism)If implemented, the plan would have sustained the Ranch's ongoing operations which employed 120 Moloka'i residents. We could also reopen the Kaluako'i Hotel and Golf Course and create more than 100 new permanent jobs as well as outsourcing opportunities for Moloka'i small businesses, such as the laundry, a health spa and eco-tour activities.Translation: Although only 120 people out of 7,000 were employed at the Ranch, still creating minimum wage jobs, would've been enough to say that the economy is strong although cost of living shouldn't be better. This could've been an opportunity to open other businesses of the Ranch that would've given possibly a hundred other minimum wage jobs.Most of us were reluctant supporters of this part of the plan, but we were assured that this would be the last development on Moloka'i Ranch land.Translation: The enticement of land and/or money seemed promising after the Ranch offered that on the table. For now, this would suffice and maybe in a couple more generations would the island have to deal with future developments, but for now, this probably would be the last development. Unless in the near future we see complications that were never foreseen.Moloka'i would have remained rural.Translation: Your definition of "rural" isn't the same as mine. "Rural" means not like Honolulu, but we can development as much as I feel is enough.No, its parent company, guocoLeisure Ltd., is not a faceless and ruthless global corporation.Translation: Whatever research you did on your own and told everyone else about isn't true because I know more than you do.It is high time everyone commit to honest and realistic assessments for each other, our 'ohana, our kupuna and our future generations, and work toward the common good.Translation: I, Colette Machado, swear that I and only I alone know what is good for the island of Molokai, and that everyone else needs to come to their senses because no matter what you decide, you still wouldn't know what is best unless it's what I have in mind.===========================Ah yes, nothing like Colette writing in Ka Wai Ola to express her frustrations because what she felt was beneficial for the island was not what the people on the island wanted. It doesn't really matter what the residents what, because in Colette's mind, she feels that as a trustee, she should have the last say and that only after her scrutinizing and analyzing a situation, can she be the one in that decisive factor. In other words, Molokaians don't know any better, only she does.
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  • Momi,

    I agree about the genetic modification of food because everything "man" touches it destroys and with food they want to mess with it to make a profit. That's always "their" bottom line but like Kalani had mentioned I hope you and others make videos to show people plus genetically modifying cells in food may alter our cells too which is scary.

    Aloha,
    Lana
  • Kalani

    Yeah O'ahu O'ahu O'ahu! Das all I hear/read about man and YOU AND I were both born there LMAO

    Also did you HAVE to write the conceived part? LOL

    Just curious but was Colette Machado born on O'ahu? Do you know?

    Aloha,
    Lana
  • US has means to "control" things, like the FDA. Look at what eastern medicine has to offer, but in Europe and latin america you have all these products while the USDA (FDA?) say that they're not true, there's no evidence of this type of medicine actually "curing" ailments. That's b/c they want to control in order that everyone in the pharmaceutical field profits. They will synthesize (sp?) products to where it simulates the healing process of a particular sickness but there are side effects. In return, they can prescribe/create another drug to counter-act that side effect, in turn you are flooding your body with crap that really does more harm than good and my cousin is kinda going through that right now as she was crying b/c of all the drugs she has to take. That's western thought. Eastern, it's about putting back what was loss basically, not using something synthesized to fix the problem which in the end creates more problem.

    see momi, YOU should do a video on that kinda stuff. Very interesting, never knew how much effect, that type of chain reaction these GMOs had really. I knew they were bad, but never dove into the issue and see how damaging it was. I knew it was, just never understood the entire scope of the issue. Eventually, we'll all suffer from the effects of these gmo products, but hey...that works out better for the pharmaceutical companies, doctors, etc. b/c they all end up profiting from this. America the beautiful, no? lol
  • Your right on track about the gmo's but it is the u.s. 's way to control the worlds food and that is the scary background reason for them doing gmo's. All the gmo's are runned by former top government officials thats why they pushed it all thrugh without educating the people about it first and now it is unleashed in our environment and never can we eat an organic papaya again. Well we will always have to wonder. The U of H claimed that gmo's was agodsend and that they did "no open field testing" but they lied. When they told me that, they had already had open field testing on papayas and it was already unleashed into the environment. There are large fields of gmo corn on Molokai by monsanto. the low down on the corn is they put round up in it (they call is round up ready) under the guise that they wouldn't have to spray round up for bugs the bugs would just not attack the corn because the roundup was in the genes of the corn itself. Problem is life finds a way and the bugs got resistent to round up so now they have to spray more round up (poison) on the corn in order to grow it. It already happened on the mainland and this is the scenario probably going on on Molokai. Monsanto sends their contaminated seeds all over the world and contaminates all the worlds corn and thus will corner the market and own corn in the world. That is the evil and it is downright evil...of gmo's. Did I explain it easy enuff? let me know if you have more questions about it. but corn is just the pencil tip. There are native medicine which they are trying to gmo, the biosprospecting companies come to hawaii and take any type of organism from the mountain to the sea to be studied and patented and they claim these organisms to belong to them and this is why I feel an urge to go for sovereignty because the rightfull owners of all the microorganism on the land and sea belong to the Hawaiian people. but these prospectors can take genetic material from anywhere without anyone knowing. That is very scary. Monsanto is just one of the companies contaminating our food.
  • Lana...yeah, oahucentric. Das why i no frequent those forums anymore, everything is about companies on Oahu, places to eat (what else lol) on OAHU and places to go while on OAHU. I remember the last trip I took there in May 2006, I told my cousins, "What the hell man? So stupid the graphical map they use on the news! Freckin' same island map of Oahu, who the hell cares?" And what it was, was basically a map of Oahu and when they'd say something like "a man in Nanakuli today...." they'd show the arrow or something like that to Nanakuli then they switch to the actual location. Then they'd say something else, maybe about a company and they'd show the map, as if that was important! lol Fuck, but nothing for the other islands. Typical.

    Huelo/Peahi/Keanae/Hana and of course Hookena/Kealia roots here. Plus conceived & raised on Molokai...nuff said. lmao
  • Momi...and the papaya too? That's one issue not too familiar with, the GMO stuff. Give me more info. I heard of the kalo and I know I saw on the news, one of those t.v. shows about Monsato and some farmer in the midwest. Basically they were suing him (and he wasn't the first case) b/c his field had the same genetically altered crap they had. But the farmer's wife or some woman said they have no control over nature and bees and cross polinization. It just sounds like to me that Monsato is nothing more than a fucking corporation who lies to bully their way and will use any means possible to get their result, which is PROFIT! That of course is in no regard to the environment, even if they may claim they will, and that the people will eventually be affected by their fucking carelessness. How sad is that.
  • E Kalani,

    Yeah John Waihee IV drove drunk and the guy who rescued me, my Uncle Junior Lum, was murdered by a drunk driver so I hope they take him out of his seat because it's due to people like him to drive drunk that the man who rescued me left his twin daughters because the drive drunker murdered him. I am very adamant about drunk drivers and how this one didn't get reprimanded. He walked away from this with little to no punishment.

    But yeah... some people make like we should be quiet. What I notice is that it is usually some of my fellow O'ahuans who tink lidat. That just because they like talk dey like others to be quiet LOL Not so much Big Island and though I have Big Island roots... in Keaukaha I know some Hawaiians no shut up which I was exposed to at a very young age. Then you have Ka'u-ans who get rid of their oppressors. Then my Maui roots where I like PUSH some people off da cliff so to speak LOL

    Das why I like it when Hawaiians speak up though even if I disagree. I remember awhile back too... some people were saying that we shouldn't be angry. People react differently but the people who try to tell other Hawaiians have a thing coming to them because if they come in contact with Big Island Hawaiians den dey going be in for a rude awakening... or Mauians who going push them off... or Molokaiians who going pray for their death.

    I think it's a mainly O'ahuan mentality though. You know... the one that makes O'ahuans the center of the universe LMAO Nah nah nah I O'ahuan too but some people try to control others but if people like talk den dey going talk. If people like discuss dey going discuss.

    Some people cannot speak up though because they may lose their job and/or their home. Some try to shut up other Hawaiians because they fear losing some things so that may be why some people want some Hawaiians to shut up but some still not shutting up and it's great dat dey not listening because sometimes it's good NOT to listen to selfish people who only care about themselves. I notice those that do speak up are usually the ones who think about all of us not just about themselves but yeah speaking up is good!!!

    Aloha,
    Lana
  • pacifism is why they contaminated our fields with gmo and now probably all the papaya on our island cause the people were passive. Now we gotta clean up their mess and there might not be a way to clean it up. Molokai Ranch, Monsanto, there are so many things going on with Molokai. I know they are doing gmo corn there and it is really sad.....:(
  • Momi...the sad thing is that some people feel that the ranch was THE LAST thing to hold the economy together. Uh...it employed some people, yes it would've attracted some tourist which in turn would allow other businesses to make their profits, but that would be at the price of building and developing which has other problems, things that were kinda but kinda not covered in the EIS. Then what happened, did they present another EIS? lol They just NOT TO, that's all. And the end result, it's best to keep what is left now. What makes me laugh is how Colette puts it, how people want benefits. Almost make it sound like that people are spoiled and materialistic and need to live comfortably if not lavishly rather than thinking of surviving, which is what fishing did for us and my aunty them who did that. They ate what they caught, they shared, gave away, and in return received some stuff too. They were poor and my aunty bitched about it, but she...THEY survived! They lived ok.

    Lana...would be u to dig up dirt on J. Waihee. lol But yeah you right, molokai does have a war. You reminded me of something I was told when you said where have all the fighters gone. That mentality of "activist" has been so ingrained into everyone to be so negative, it's sickening! I mean, people here don't like it when I do ku'e and say, "Why, because everyone has come to believe that Hawaiians should be pacifists? This Filipino guy at the coffee shop told me one time how we are so laid back, so quiet and he pointed out other people he met from hawaii who were like that. I forgot his exact words, he didn't say "quiet", but he did say laid back...maybe low key or something, but he used that on me when talking about certain issues. What he was really saying was that local people don't really speak up, which is true. My uncle went bananas when he found out the time we went back for my dad's funeral about what Del Monte did to him and to others. My uncle said it was the island mentality how people are taught to be quiet, which is definitely true. This guy at the coffee shop noticed that. You already know that people in CA are just the opposite. Fight, fight, fight, block traffic while marching...all the latinos of course lmao, but they speak up! They fucking speak up! In Hawaii, the mentality of "no make shame lidat" just gives me a full image of what it was like in the early contact days where na Haole were surprised by the "natives'" primitiveness. It's time for people to not fear and get out of that mentality that speaking up is bad. It's good!
  • Well, I heard that they built a boardwalk over a heiau there so the haole could see the heiau and walk over it. Well, one day his young son decided to piss on the heiau from the boardwalk. Not long after that, went back to the mainland and he died. So I don' t know if that discouraged Lyle or taught him a lesson but I hear that people who had jobs (construction) down at Hokuli`a are saying that construction has come to a hault. :) but our kupuna's bones that was collected after being meshed into the land, are still waiting for a proper burial. and Lyle is claiming this bankrupcy of course to protect his but and someone will probably develop the area still but we will wait and see.


    Lana, I just asked cause I live mauka of Miloli`i. I didn't know that they moved people out for haole to move in but their is an area to the right side as you drive down the hill that the natives call haolewood....:) My sister in law owns a lot in haolewood. It's nothing but lava...

    K, but yah, I'm sure La`au is thinkin up their next strategy along with their money talks and bulshit walks idea. I hope the people of Molokai stay strong and don't let the Ranch decide the outcome of their lives. They don't have any idea how that development would have changed the island and drastically too.
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