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From: Leon Siu
Subject: More Inouye/Akaka bill controversy
Please post to list-serves. Mahalo
Aloha Kakou,
Mahalo to all who participated in last Monday’s Akaka Bill “sneak-attack” protest at the corner of Punchbowl and Beretania. It was more than we could have hoped for. Our simple protest developed traction and in two days, escalated into destabilizing the Akaka bill gang.
First of all, we got Senator Inouye to vehemently deny he was planning such a sneak-attack. We got him to disavow any intention of doing so, and to insist that the bill is being handled in “the regular order” of the legislative process. He insisted it was a “transparent” process. (His hasty denial left no doubt that he was the real driver behind the Akaka bill.)
Inouye’s claim to “transparency” literally blew up in his face the next day. Our protest triggered inquiries by Governor Lingle to Akaka’s office about what was going on. It was then that the governor discovered that a back-room deal (different from the one we were protesting) had been struck between Akaka and the Obama administration, and that this was to be implemented in Congress the very next day (Wednesday).
Miffed that the state had been kept in the dark, the governor withdrew the state’s long-standing support of the bill and state attorney general Mark Bennett sent a scathing letter to the members of the senate and house committees.
The governor’s action caused the implementation of the back-room deal to falter. As a result, two versions of the Akaka bill were reported out of committees (the House version on Wednesday without the objectionable amendment and Senate version on Thursday, with the amendment). Because there are now two versions, they will have to be reconciled before the Akaka bill can become law. That means the vetting process will extend well into next year, and this won’t be the Christmas present they were hoping for. Needless to say, there is a lot of anxiety in the Akaka bill camp as they scramble with damage control.
Furthermore, the governor, the Star Bulletin and others have joined us in demanding that congressional hearings be held in Hawaii, so that the people of Hawaii (as opposed to only the bureaucrats of Hawaii) can finally have a say. This is the worst fear of Inouye, Akaka, OHA, et al. They know the bill will not hold up to public scrutiny. If hearings are held in Hawaii, the people of Hawaii will leave the Akaka bill in shreds.
This is key to the dismantling of the Akaka bill. The Akaka bill gang will try every which way to avoid hearings in Hawaii. But because of this recent amendment debacle, the rift among supporters and a current poll showing a majority of the people of Hawaii do not support the Akaka bill, it will be virtually impossible for the Akaka gang to stop congressional hearings from taking place in Hawaii. What are they going to say? “We don’t want the people of Hawaii to be heard”?
Please add your voice to insist for hearings in Hawaii. Keep the pressure up. The lies are beginning to unravel and the the schemes are coming apart at the seams...
Here are some links to press on the issue. More are surfacing every day.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=11676367http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20091214/BREAKING01/91214061/Sen.+Inouye+responds+to+charges+of+Akaka+Bill++sneak+attack+
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It's what you don't see that makes it sinister. Inrelating the events, they miss the fact that we resisted annexation (and still do). They imply that we accept the fact that we are now part of the United States of America and therefore, we are American citizens and "aboriginal, indigenous native Hawaiian Americans. We are looking for the u.s. to do the right thing by recognizing us like they do the Native American tribes with limited rights unique to and different somewhat to Native Alaskans and Native Americans on the contiguous states on the continent. Unlike Native Americans, Native Hawaiians will have to negotiate not only with the Federal government; but with the State of Hawai'i. Both will have superior jurisdiction over the governing entity.
Native Hawaiian Constituents are eligible-registered members who elect to participate by meeting the requirements established by the Federal government with the approval of the state of Hawaii. Blood quantum, U.S. citizenship, being a Hawaii resident, 18 years of age, and active participation in a couple of native Hawaiian organizations verified by two recognized parties are a requirement to enroll with this governing entity.
The state will have a lot more control and say about the Native Hawaiian governing entity which other states don't have on the continental 48 state union as Kehau has pointed out. Native Alaskans are a corporation and subject to the state of Alaska and under their jurisdictional laws. The recognized Native Americans tribes within the 48 contiguous states directly fall under federal goverment jurisdiction. Native Hawaiians are somewhere in between.
Congress has absolute authority, followed by the Secretary of Interior, followed by the state of Hawaii, then the Native Hawaiian governing entity in affairs that affect the native Hawaiians. This governing entity usurps the Kingdom of Hawaii status and jurisdiction which will negotiate with the Federal and state governments for compliance and land and resources. It will be pretty much of what we have now with OHA, CNHA, HCCA, DHHL. In other words, pretty much status quo of what's going on today.
Thus, this is just a reaffirmation of what already exists and hopes it will deter any lawsuits against these organizations, agencies, city and county, State and federal governments. This tribal governing entity will represent all Hawaii national subjects which are now deemed U.S. citizens who will have jurisdiction to negotiate lands and resources with the Federal and State governments. The state is afraid of losing land and revenues, and taxes under this governing entity.
Criminal jurisdiction of felonious cases will still be under the state's jurisdiction and misdemeanor cases may be handled by the governing entity but not with non-members. Basically, what we have now is what we are getting. If you love what OHA and CNHA is doing; you'll love the Native Hawaiian governing entity...it's just a change of title.
Maikai no oe, e Tane, What most people do not know of the AKaKa BILL is that for those Kanaka Maoli and Kanaka Maoli entities who do not enrolled in the AKaKa BILL if and when it becomes The Law, they will not be recognized as Hawaiians. Which means that if the Trustees of Kamahemahea Schools do not enroll Kamehameha Schools in the AKaKA BILL, Kamahemahe Schools will not be recognized by the Federal Government as a Hawaiian entity. This goes the same for all the other Hawaiian Trusts and Hawaiian Entities. In the language of the AKaKa BILL the Federal government will recognize only ONE Hawaiian entity. In Alaska many Alaskan Native that did not enroll in the Alaskan Bill are not recognized as Alaskan Natives. In fact if I remember right, any Alaskan Native who was born after the Alaska Bill passed are not recognized as Alaskan Natives by the federal government. KUE, o Pomai
ku ching > PomaikaiokalaniDecember 24, 2009 at 9:54am
Pomai wrote:
> In fact if I remember right, any Alaskan Native who was born after the Alaska Bill passed are not recognized as Alaskan Natives by the federal government.
Isn't this a great way to disenfranchise all those unborn generations?
In about a hundred years or so - after - the debacle - there may not be any Hawaiians!
What a high price to pay - for recognition (that we should already be internationally recognized).
So - the stupid idiots who would play the american game will be planning the demise of our entire LaHui.
Anyway - it's something that needs to be analysed and discussed and decided upon - by such as the Dans, OHA, etc. I hate to say it - but maybe this is really THE PLAN.
I do not want hearings. They've already had numerous opportunities to have hearings open to the general public.
As you already know in 1967 Florida created the Sunshine Law Chapter 286 of the Florida Statutes which established a basic right of access to most meetings of boards, commissions and other governing bodies of state and local governmental agencies or authorities. In 1990 a Constitutional amendment was passed by Florida voters providing for open meetings in the legislative branch of government pioneering Government-in-the-Sunshine laws throughout the U.S.
However some politicians in Hawai'i seem to think that they are exempt. They had their chance to show that they're transparent. How is having hearings going to change them and make them honest? Or make what they are doing honest and/or truthful? No. Unless it's a defensive tactic but it won't change their objectives. (Or is it just me? LOL)
Where is the attorney general? He (William Bennett) is just as shady as the rest of them.
Ironically... they screw over Hawaiians --- only to screw each other (literally) and to be screwed over by EACH OTHER. What goes around comes around and is catching up with them....
LOL!! so much like those late-afternoon soaps...drama.
Hearings I believe are important and necessary more so for the public than for politicians. People are getting educated real fast (Wall Street Bailouts, D.C. GOP wacko's, etc.) about their crooked politicians and how they've sold then all out to the banks, pharma;s, insurance co.'s etc.
Exposing this Akaka Bill scam to/for the public is necessary for our survival not only here in Hawaii...but for the whole planet. The rest of the worlds knows all about how the US Government, Corporate Oligrachs......those that really are a threat to humanity and this planet; But the majority of the masses within the USA do not....and will not until there is a paradgm shit. For this to happen though, Ignorance, Apathy and Denial of what is really going on in this world must be exposed to the people.
The Akaka Bill is a good place to start...let's expose the Danner's, OHA, Inouye, Abercrombie, etc....LET THE HEARINGS BEGIN!
Americans whom I know are disenfranchised and know about TARP, Cap and Trade, etc and how they have been screwed over. They saw what happened during Hurricane Katrina too.
I can understand those who want the Danners, OHA, Inouye, Abercrombie, Bennett, etc to be exposed. I leave it to Ke Akua to expose them for who they are and what they have done. Ke akua is always watching.
IMHO having hearings over the Akaka Bill is a waste of time and money. Will it change the status quo of Hawaiians? Will speaking change the status quo of Hawaiians? No. Money that could be better spent on bailing out responsible homeowners or better yet... used to build housing for Hawaiians on land owned by Hawaiians and their legal heirs.
IMHO power hungry people will use this as an opportunity to bash Hawaiians. Look at how some are writing about Hawaiians in regards to the Akaka Bill. I do not want my kupuna to be slandered and/or libelled more than they already have.
In 2006 - when the 3-person team - including Leon Siu and myself - went to DC to oppose the so-called "akaka" bill cloture vote - we had to dispell the myth that Hawaiians were "for" the billl. Apparently - the Dans (and others) had allowed many Senators to believe that there was "no" opposition.
They were very surprised when "Hawaiians" showed up at their offices - opposing the bill.
I don't know if we did any good in straightening out the "record," because the vote was soooo close, if we were able to sway just one senator - we were extremely successful.
To counter the lies and myths that have been circulated in and around DC - and in fact - the entire u.s. - hearings held on all of the islands would surely bring the truth out into the public's light. I believe that such a showing in 2000 when the one and only series of public hearings (on one of the earlier bills) was so negative - that the scheduling of neighbor island hearings was completely gutted - and that every intent since then - included no "public" hearings in Hawai'i - and only hearings in DC, by invitation only, and particiated in only by those who "favor" the bill.
This ain't democracy! Let the world - and DC - know that Hawaiians aren't exclusively "for" the bill - that there is a growing and serious opposition to it - BY THE PEOPLE!
we, the kanaka maoli's will not settle for less, period!!!
we will demand what is owed back to us, our Hawaiian Kingdom Government.
too much of our Kupuna's has died in silence, due to being a lost generation
in the heap and chaos of this illegal government within our Hawaiian Kingdom Government.
we never left, only covered up by illegals
we still alive under the junk of this illegal system
once they are removed, we will be up lifted to jusctice.
the smell of stink, has filled the room of illegals
soon they will be identified and we have no choice
but to clean up and start trashing the unwanted........Restoration will be in place!!!
Though CNHA (Robin Danner, backed by the D.C. Democratic's) and the State of Hawaii (Lingle) are like two lovers jilted by one another...there are several other players in this predictable American Soap-Opera makig strategic moves for position.
There is DHHL, SCHHA and more than likely many more groups/organizations that have/are claiming to be eligible to receive the coveted Federal Monies for so-called "Native Hawaiains."
Da Thieves Honeymoon is over folks....the back-stabbing and cut-throating has started with a bang!
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Native Hawaiian Constituents are eligible-registered members who elect to participate by meeting the requirements established by the Federal government with the approval of the state of Hawaii. Blood quantum, U.S. citizenship, being a Hawaii resident, 18 years of age, and active participation in a couple of native Hawaiian organizations verified by two recognized parties are a requirement to enroll with this governing entity.
The state will have a lot more control and say about the Native Hawaiian governing entity which other states don't have on the continental 48 state union as Kehau has pointed out. Native Alaskans are a corporation and subject to the state of Alaska and under their jurisdictional laws. The recognized Native Americans tribes within the 48 contiguous states directly fall under federal goverment jurisdiction. Native Hawaiians are somewhere in between.
Congress has absolute authority, followed by the Secretary of Interior, followed by the state of Hawaii, then the Native Hawaiian governing entity in affairs that affect the native Hawaiians. This governing entity usurps the Kingdom of Hawaii status and jurisdiction which will negotiate with the Federal and state governments for compliance and land and resources. It will be pretty much of what we have now with OHA, CNHA, HCCA, DHHL. In other words, pretty much status quo of what's going on today.
Thus, this is just a reaffirmation of what already exists and hopes it will deter any lawsuits against these organizations, agencies, city and county, State and federal governments. This tribal governing entity will represent all Hawaii national subjects which are now deemed U.S. citizens who will have jurisdiction to negotiate lands and resources with the Federal and State governments. The state is afraid of losing land and revenues, and taxes under this governing entity.
Criminal jurisdiction of felonious cases will still be under the state's jurisdiction and misdemeanor cases may be handled by the governing entity but not with non-members. Basically, what we have now is what we are getting. If you love what OHA and CNHA is doing; you'll love the Native Hawaiian governing entity...it's just a change of title.
Tane
> In fact if I remember right, any Alaskan Native who was born after the Alaska Bill passed are not recognized as Alaskan Natives by the federal government.
Isn't this a great way to disenfranchise all those unborn generations?
In about a hundred years or so - after - the debacle - there may not be any Hawaiians!
What a high price to pay - for recognition (that we should already be internationally recognized).
So - the stupid idiots who would play the american game will be planning the demise of our entire LaHui.
Anyway - it's something that needs to be analysed and discussed and decided upon - by such as the Dans, OHA, etc. I hate to say it - but maybe this is really THE PLAN.
ku
I do not want hearings. They've already had numerous opportunities to have hearings open to the general public.
As you already know in 1967 Florida created the Sunshine Law Chapter 286 of the Florida Statutes which established a basic right of access to most meetings of boards, commissions and other governing bodies of state and local governmental agencies or authorities. In 1990 a Constitutional amendment was passed by Florida voters providing for open meetings in the legislative branch of government pioneering Government-in-the-Sunshine laws throughout the U.S.
However some politicians in Hawai'i seem to think that they are exempt. They had their chance to show that they're transparent. How is having hearings going to change them and make them honest? Or make what they are doing honest and/or truthful? No. Unless it's a defensive tactic but it won't change their objectives. (Or is it just me? LOL)
Where is the attorney general? He (William Bennett) is just as shady as the rest of them.
Ironically... they screw over Hawaiians --- only to screw each other (literally) and to be screwed over by EACH OTHER. What goes around comes around and is catching up with them....
E malama pono.
Hearings I believe are important and necessary more so for the public than for politicians. People are getting educated real fast (Wall Street Bailouts, D.C. GOP wacko's, etc.) about their crooked politicians and how they've sold then all out to the banks, pharma;s, insurance co.'s etc.
Exposing this Akaka Bill scam to/for the public is necessary for our survival not only here in Hawaii...but for the whole planet. The rest of the worlds knows all about how the US Government, Corporate Oligrachs......those that really are a threat to humanity and this planet; But the majority of the masses within the USA do not....and will not until there is a paradgm shit. For this to happen though, Ignorance, Apathy and Denial of what is really going on in this world must be exposed to the people.
The Akaka Bill is a good place to start...let's expose the Danner's, OHA, Inouye, Abercrombie, etc....LET THE HEARINGS BEGIN!
Americans whom I know are disenfranchised and know about TARP, Cap and Trade, etc and how they have been screwed over. They saw what happened during Hurricane Katrina too.
I can understand those who want the Danners, OHA, Inouye, Abercrombie, Bennett, etc to be exposed. I leave it to Ke Akua to expose them for who they are and what they have done. Ke akua is always watching.
IMHO having hearings over the Akaka Bill is a waste of time and money. Will it change the status quo of Hawaiians? Will speaking change the status quo of Hawaiians? No. Money that could be better spent on bailing out responsible homeowners or better yet... used to build housing for Hawaiians on land owned by Hawaiians and their legal heirs.
IMHO power hungry people will use this as an opportunity to bash Hawaiians. Look at how some are writing about Hawaiians in regards to the Akaka Bill. I do not want my kupuna to be slandered and/or libelled more than they already have.
For me that is more important than being "right."
E malama pono.
They were very surprised when "Hawaiians" showed up at their offices - opposing the bill.
I don't know if we did any good in straightening out the "record," because the vote was soooo close, if we were able to sway just one senator - we were extremely successful.
To counter the lies and myths that have been circulated in and around DC - and in fact - the entire u.s. - hearings held on all of the islands would surely bring the truth out into the public's light. I believe that such a showing in 2000 when the one and only series of public hearings (on one of the earlier bills) was so negative - that the scheduling of neighbor island hearings was completely gutted - and that every intent since then - included no "public" hearings in Hawai'i - and only hearings in DC, by invitation only, and particiated in only by those who "favor" the bill.
This ain't democracy! Let the world - and DC - know that Hawaiians aren't exclusively "for" the bill - that there is a growing and serious opposition to it - BY THE PEOPLE!
ku
we will demand what is owed back to us, our Hawaiian Kingdom Government.
too much of our Kupuna's has died in silence, due to being a lost generation
in the heap and chaos of this illegal government within our Hawaiian Kingdom Government.
we never left, only covered up by illegals
we still alive under the junk of this illegal system
once they are removed, we will be up lifted to jusctice.
the smell of stink, has filled the room of illegals
soon they will be identified and we have no choice
but to clean up and start trashing the unwanted........Restoration will be in place!!!
Though CNHA (Robin Danner, backed by the D.C. Democratic's) and the State of Hawaii (Lingle) are like two lovers jilted by one another...there are several other players in this predictable American Soap-Opera makig strategic moves for position.
There is DHHL, SCHHA and more than likely many more groups/organizations that have/are claiming to be eligible to receive the coveted Federal Monies for so-called "Native Hawaiains."
Da Thieves Honeymoon is over folks....the back-stabbing and cut-throating has started with a bang!