Which Nations Were Considered "Barbaric"?

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So, the answer is "the Indians, the Afghans, the Arabs, and the Circassians".

Let us review a timeline on the above:

Indians

American Indian Wars
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An 1899 chromolithograph of US cavalry pursuing Native Americans, artist unknown
Date 1622–1924 (intermittent)
Location North America, United States
Result Sovereignty of United States of America extended to its present borders; Indian reservation system established by various treaties with individual tribes.
Belligerents
Native Americans  Kingdom of England(1622–1707)
  • English America

 Kingdom of Great Britain (1707–1783)

 United States (1783–1924)
 Confederate States of America (1861–1865)

Texas Republic of Texas(1836–1846)

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The Afghans

Origin of the names Afghan and Afghana[edit source | editbeta]

Tents of Afghan nomads in Badghis Province of Afghanistan who are known inPashto language as Kuchans. They mostlyGhilzais and migrate from region to region depending on the season. Early peasant farming villages came into existence inAfghanistan about 7,000 years ago.[7]
Newly excavated Buddhist stupa at Mes Aynak in Logar Province of Afghanistan. Similar stupas have been discovered in neighboring Ghazni Province, including in the northern Samangan Province.
Names of territories during the IslamicCaliphate of the 7th century and onward.

The earliest mention of the name Afghan (Abgân) is by Shapur I of the Sassanid Empireduring the 3rd century CE,[4][8][9] which is later recorded in the 6th century in the form of"Avagānā" by the Indian astronomer Varāha Mihira in his Brihat-samhita.[10] It was used to refer to a common legendary ancestor known as "Afghana", grandson of King Saul of Israel.[1][11]

The Encyclopædia Iranica explains:[10]

"From a more limited, ethnological point of view, "Afġān" is the term by which the Persian-speakers of Afghanistan (and the non-Paštō-speaking ethnic groups generally) designate the Paštūn. The equation [of] Afġān [and] Paštūn has been propagated all the more, both in and beyond Afghanistan, because the Paštūn tribal confederation is by far the most important in the country, numerically and politically. The term "Afġān" has probably designated the Paštūn since ancient times. Under the form Avagānā, this ethnic group is first mentioned by the Indian astronomer Varāha Mihira in the beginning of the 6th century in his Brhat-samhita."

Hiven Tsiang, a Chinese Buddist pilgrim visiting the Afghanistan area several times between 630 to 644 CE, speaks about the native tribes inhabiting the region.[8][12] According to scholars such as V. Minorsky, W.K. Frazier Tyler and M.C. Gillet, the word Afghan has appeared in the 982 Ḥudūd al-ʿĀlam, where a reference is made to a village.

"Saul, a pleasant village on a mountain. In it live Afghans".[13]

Saul was probably located near Gardez, in the Paktia province of Afghanistan.[13] Ḥudūd al-ʿĀlam also speaks of a king in "Ninhar" (Nangarhar), who shows a public display of conversion to Islam, even though he has over 30 wives, which are described as "Muslim, Afghan, and Hindu" wives. It should be noted that some of these names were used as geographical terms. For example, Hindu (or Hindustani) has been used historically as ageographical term to describe someone who was native from the region known as Hindustan(Indian subcontinent).

Al-Utbi, the Ghaznavid chronicler, in his Tarikh-i Yamini records that many Afghans and Khiljies (possibly modern Ghilzais) enlisted in the army of Sabuktigin after Jayapala was defeated.

"The Afghans and Khiljies who resided among the mountains having taken the oath of allegiance to Subooktugeen, many of them were enlisted in his army, after which he returned in triumph to Ghizny."[14]

Al-Utbi further states that Afghans and Ghilzais made a part of Mahmud Ghaznavi's army and were sent on his expedition to Tocharistan, while on another occasion Mahmud Ghaznavi attacked and punished a group of opposing Afghans, as also corroborated byAbulfazl Beyhaqi.[15] In the 11th century, Afghans are mentioned in Al-Biruni's Tarikh-ul Hind("History of India"), which describes groups of rebellious Afghans in the tribal lands west of the Indus River in what is today Pakistan.[13][16] It is recorded that Afghans were also enrolled in the Ghurid Kingdom (1148–1215).[17] By the beginning of the Khilji dynasty in 1290, Afghans have been well known in northern India. Ibn Battuta, a famous Moroccantraveler, visiting Afghanistan following the era of the Khilji dynasty in 1333 writes.

"We travelled on to Kabul, formerly a vast town, the site of which is now occupied by a village inhabited by a tribe of Persians called Afghans. They hold mountains and defiles and possess considerable strength, and are mostly highwaymen. Their principal mountain is called Kuh Sulayman. It is told that the prophet Sulayman [Solomon] ascended this mountain and having looked out over India, which was then covered with darkness, returned without entering it."[18]
Ibn Battuta1333

A 16th-century Muslim historian writing about the history of Muslim rule in India states:

"He [Khalid bin Abdullah son of Khalid bin Walid] retired, therefore, with his family, and a number of Arab retainers, into the Sulaiman Mountains, situated between Multan and Peshawar, where he took up his residence, and gave his daughter in marriage to one of the Afghan chiefs, who had become a proselyte to Mahomedism. From this marriage many children were born, among whom were two sons famous in history. The oneLodhi, the other Sur; who each, subsequently, became head of the tribes which to this day bear their name. I have read in the Mutla-ul-Anwar, a work written by a respectable author, and which I procured at Burhanpur, a town of Khandesh in theDeccan, that the Afghans are Copts of the race of the Pharaohs; and that when the prophet Moses got the better of that infidel who was overwhelmed in the Red Sea, many of the Copts became converts to the Jewish faith; but others, stubborn and self-willed, refusing to embrace the true faith, leaving their country, came to India, and eventually settled in the Sulimany mountains, where they bore the name of Afghans."[1]
Ferishta1560-1620

In the writings of the 17th-century Pashto poet Khushal Khan Khattak, it states "Pull out your sword and slay any one, that says Pashtun and Afghan are not one! Arabs know this and so do Romans: Afghans are Pashtuns, Pashtuns are Afghans!"[19]

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The Arabs

Arabs
العرب
Al-ʿArab
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Total population
approx. 422 million[1]
Regions with significant populations
 Arab League 402,000,000[2]
 Brazil 15,000,000–17,000,000[3]
 Argentina 1,300,000–3,300,000[4][5]
 United States 2,466,874[6]
 France 1,500,000–2,000,000[7][8]
 Iran 700,000 – 2,000,000[9]
 Israel 1,500,000
 Mexico 1,100,000[10]
 Spain 800,000[11]
 Turkey 500,000[12]
 Australia 375,000[13]
Languages
ArabicModern South Arabian,[14][15] varieties of Arabic
Religion
Predominantly Islam
Largest minority: Christianity; other religions
Related ethnic groups

Other Semitic peoples and various Afro-Asiatic peoples

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The Circassians

Circassians
Адыгэ
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The Circassian Flag
Total population
4 million,[1] 5-8 million[2]
Regions with significant populations
 Turkey 140,000[3] - 3,000,000[4] [5]
 Jordan 60,000[6]
 Syria 120,000[7]
 Russia 900,000[8]
[7]
 Germany 40,000[9]
[10]
 United States 25,000[1]
 Israel 4,000[11]
 Ukraine 1,010[9]
[12]
 Bulgaria 500[13]
 Netherlands 500[9]
Languages
Circassian
also TurkishArabicRussian
Religion
Sunni Muslim
minority HabzeOrthodox ChristianCatholic
Related ethnic groups

AbkhazAbazaKabardayUbykh

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Summary

The above ancient societies were deemed barbaric in 1844 by the English and others claiming to be the "civilized nations".

It is now the year 2013 and the English along with other "civilized nations" continue to keep the above nations at bay while considering them "barbaric" nations still.

With the ongoing criminal Plundering Upon Innocents by assuming these nations lands, resources, assets by the so called "civilized nations" for 169 years, disregarding the accomplishments, progresses made by these targeted nations.... the question is...................Who (really) are the "barbaric nations"?

  

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note:  This is an Anti War Message by the House of Nobles, Hawaiian Kingdom, a neutral, friendly, non-violent nation

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  • note that a reply was deleted............this is the corrected version of the reply because the dates were incorrect and now corrected:

    Glasgow weekly times. (Glasgow, Mo.) 1848-1861, December 11, 1851, Image 2

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    The entire article is important because it was U.S. President Tyler's message in 1851 which affects the Hawaiian Government as well.  

    In 1849, U.S. President Tyler did sign a Permanent Friendship Treaty with Kamehameha III whose descendants exists today.  

    This is the beginning of the article which should be read by everyone because this supercedes all that Obama, et. als. are attempting to do today to validate their entity which is neither de facto nor de jure and documented by Queen Liliuokalani as well:

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=GsBKFAdo-ig&am...

    Summary

    The contract/Perpetual Treaty was signed in 1849 with the above U.S. Constitution and Amendments intact.

    This means that the contract/Perpetual Treaty is locked in time and the U.S. Constitution and Amendments recorded during the time period affects the Perpetual Treaty of the period.

    This means that the U.S. Constitution and Amendments remain unchanged to this day because Treaty(ies) supersede State Laws, etc.

    This means that all the Presidential Executive Orders which changes the U.S. Constitution cannot change what was since 1849.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.........but Americans can charge those who change the U.S. Constitution as treasonous, etc.

    aloha.

       

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    note:  

    In 1852, Kauikeouli/Kamehameha III passed the anti-slavery law and 13 years later, the U.S. passed their anti-slavery following the Hawaiian Law with nearly every word in the law worded the same.

    Yes, the Hawaiian Kingdom was more progressive than the U.S./United States of America.

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    The Hawaiian Kingdom Treaty, a Perpetual Treaty, may just be what can save Americans in this day and age.....read on.....aloha.
     
    Scrutinizing the PERPETUAL TREATY(IES) With the U.S./United States of America And Their Constitution
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    Hint:

    Let's focus on PART VI no. 2 - ABOUT TREATY(IES):

    "2.  This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in  every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

    Note:   

    "all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land"......and the "Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

    notwithstanding - 

    1. notwithstanding legal definition of notwithstanding. notwithstanding ... 
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      notwithstanding preposition all the same, despite, even, however, in any case, in any event, in spite of, nevertheless, none the less, still, yet ...
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      The legal definition of Notwithstanding is In spite of, even if, without regard to or impediment by other things.


    "3.  The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

    Note:  

    "The Senators and Representatives" or Congress, and each member/"Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution;"

     

    Note:  How many States were part of the Union in 1849?

     

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    oh btw...............Is Washington, D.C. a State?

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    Consider the fact that the Indians, Arabs, et. als. have been determined to be "barbaric" for more than 169 years...........and yet, we know who the REAL barbarians are!......

    The View of the "Barbaric Nations" from England's Point of View
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    Which Nations Were Considered Barbaric ? The following article came out of Chroniclingamerica.com website: Polynesian. (Honolulu [Oahu], Hawaii) 1844-1864, S…
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    • What is missing are letters and journals of individual, independent sailors from England who were on the ships to Hawaii (Sandwich Islands) who wrote of their impressions of their visit during Cook and Vancouver's sojourns.  They were impressed of the highly civilized Hawaiian society with their cultivation of crops and structure of governance and laws, orderly conduct, warfare, organization and civility, openness and friendliness.

       

      The other factor is that King George wasn't interested in colonization of the islands and agreed to a protectorate status for the islands and recognized the autonomy of Kamehameha the great, his government,  laws, customs, and form of governance.  Thus, the doctrines of terra nullius and discovery did not apply; Divine right went unchallenged along with the recognition of the Hawaiian Kingdom's existence.  The relationship with Great Britain was amicable. 

       

      The purpose of the Union Jack on the Hawaiian flag was used as leverage internationally to caution and make other nations aware of the recognition and protectorate agreement between the two countries to stave off any other nation to invade the Hawaiian Kingdom who would try to claim the islands for themselves.  In 1818, the Hawaiian Kingdom became the first nation to recognize the sovereign independence of Argentina. 

       

      Vancouver became an intimate friend of Kamehameha and Ka'ahumanu of which Kamehameha picked his brains and took advice as well as help.  Because of Vancouver's friendship, he would act as mediator between Kamehameha and Ka'ahumanu whenever they had jealousy spats and disagreements while he was there on visits.   Vancouver kept in close contact with them even when he was away from the islands.; they had a lasting friendship.

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