Aloha mai kakou, It looks like Obama is just part of the establishment. The war and the military is the perfect place to get filthy rich and in that case any lie, deception like bringing democracy, liberation, war on terror is worth the risk. And as the modern U.S. history proves it, nobody makes any effort to find the stolen money of the taxpayers. Please read it carefully and keep it in mind that any war when the leaders send your children to war instead of their own is an unjust war. When nations were in trouble the parents sent their own children to defend what's dearest to them, their `aina. Read the following carefully. Obama's Defense Department appointees – The $3.4 Trillion Dollar Question by Andrew Hughes Global Research, February 13, 2009 Former Raytheon lobbyist, William Lynn, was appointed deputy defense secretary on Wednesday, February 11th after a contentious Senate confirmation hearing that led Republican Senator for Iowa, Charles Grassley, to forcefully object to the appointment on the basis of Mr. Lynn's "very questionable accounting practices that were obviously not in the public interest" while in the position of Pentagon Comptroller during the Clinton administration. The Senator's objection did not go far enough in exploring the "very questionable accounting practices" that Lynn engaged in during his tenure at the Defense Department from 1997 to 2001. The relevant question that should have been asked is "Where did the $3.4 Trillion go?" In fiscal year 1999, the Department of Defense reported that it was missing $2.3 Trillion. In fiscal year 2000 the Department reported a missing $1.1 Trillion. Total: $3.4 Trillion "missing" taxpayer money. This happened under the watchful eye of the same William Lynn that now passes through the revolving door between the Department of Defense and the Defense industry. Lynn was the Defense Department's chief financial officer and as such was responsible for all budgetary administration and reporting. He was also responsible for the publication of audited financial statements which he failed to do during his tenure and which have not been published since. Lynn was nominated by Obama-Biden because "Lynn brings decades of experience and expertise in reforming government spending and making the tough choices necessary to ensure that American tax dollars are spent wisely." The other appointee, as Undersecretary of Defense (Comptroller), Robert Hale, served as Assistant Secretary of the Air Force in the role of Financial Comptroller from 1994 to 2001. He was also responsible, along with Lynn, for the management of Defense Department funds. Hale is also a Certified Defense Financial Manager with acquisition specialty. This is his particular connection to the Military Industrial Complex. Between these two appointees, they have lost enough taxpayer money to pay for Obama's Stimulus Plan 4 times over and are now again responsible for overseeing how the Department of Defense manages its appropriations. Obama's promise of fiscal responsibility within his administration can now be dumped in to the already overflowing trash can of broken promises. Global Research Articles by Andrew Hughes http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12291

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  • "...Last month we received a response: "...we are unable to provide any information on matters under investigation or those related to the national security of the United States"."

    True, they are not able to provide information because it's ONGOING and as long as they keep filing appeals it will continue to be so.

    Could you explain HOW it works?

    It what you have expressed in your last post I will try to do my best. I am not an attorney but will address the most common answer for a situation you are addressing below:


    "From the report of Dave Lindorff, "The Case of the Missing $21 Billion: Who's Following the Iraq Money?"

    As long as Bush was in office he really did a great job in not providing information on record as investigations like the 911 incidents - "As Commander in Chief" he stands to use this title concerning military issues as "classified" operatives. Therefore as to the proceedings on legal matters it could very well be held in military court and not considered an issue to provide to the public ie: taxpayers, etc. Media keeps asking the questions but the more questions are asked, the more people are hurt....I won't go into matters as to how as it should be self-explanatory if you understand the ways of government and corruption. Those that do get hurt, you don't hear about them in the media because for lack of a better word, it's classified. Those that provide information that provides evidence of truth whether by science as in the 911 investigations of the destruction of the towers and other buildings; most times you can track down the players in the game by their business manuevers, owners, managers, board or shareholders of the companies. Most shell companies practice their filings in the State of Delaware. This state has a great "privacy act" for corporate business filings where you have a name of a company, you may know their attorneys if you inquire about them but you will never know who the players are because they are protected by Delaware laws.

    My nonprofit has been involved on past and also present case issues where we find "shell" companies involved on land issues.

    As to your point on propaganda, how do you separate propaganda from information.

    First and Foremost rule of propaganda is "pointing fingers" without sufficient evidence of what the legal (some cases physical & scientific evidence) issue holds. Like in the heading and story of the Lynn incident...the focus should not be on Obama and Lynn as I pointed out earlier, in the media post/blog the pattern has been to easily pick at someone like Obama and Lynn that if they had anything to hide, knowing full well this was going to be a sell for the media, Obama is intelligent enough to know how players play. He's not only book smart, but he's common sense smart. The public, espcially those that supported him see this first other than his book smart.

    By the way, I have no clue what you mean under LIBERATED CURRENCIES. Do you mean the 1.8 billion dollar in sized assets in Iraq, that until today the Coalition Provisional Authority could not account for?

    Yes any country we are at war with or in support of war with is ASSETS.

    And finally picking on leaders. Correct, I agree that you should not pick on leaders of any country, but you should criticize them if you suspect that something is wrong, because without criticism there is no progress. And if you consider criticism to be picking on someone, I might have paved my way to hell, because I had criticized George Bush on quite a few occasions.

    In my opinion, criticism doesn't go well in politics..it's just noise and one will not be taken seriously. If you suspect something is wrong, the strategy is to wait for more information to be provided; to better make an "assessment". Not a call, not a judge, but an assessment. After all the facts are provided in whatever form of investigation then we can better make an informed decision to do it right and one time done or one time talk, nuff. Take sovereignty issues as an example....continue to provide the education of what really happened to the Kingdom of Hawaii. But which is it? Was there an overthrow/dethronement or an occupation? In my opinion, evidence says it was an occupation by military presence/act of force...so why is half the masses saying one thing and the other half saying what I believe to be evidence. There has to be unity in this area of SPEECH and IN WRITING by all in the masses.

    Yes, unity is very important in matters of independence, freedom, sovereignty and that's what I have experienced at the Ku i ka Pono in Honolulu last month. Our approach still might be different, but c'est la vie.

    And I am honored and proud to know you...that you have done and experienced this at the Ku i ka Pono in Honolulu last month. Your approach to what is different? Your approach to "Freedom of Information Act" on funds missing? In my opinion, that energy to inquire is wasted energy if you are wanting to point fingers of injustice. It was done and we will not get the money back so how is that to help sovereignty issues? How is that to bring unity? There are other groups who are fully funded to be watchdogs for federal government and they are U.S. citizens wanting transparency in government.

    Are you claiming to be a U.S. citizen and wanting to know where your tax dollars go? I guess for me, I'm not concerned about tax dollars on the federal level. I don't pay federal income tax - I claim enough exemptions to not get taxed this way. I understand the tax laws so I know I am following laws and I am continuing to survive one day at a time. My ways of existing and raising a family might not mirror the majority of the masses whether one wants to classify one for me, but everyone can do what I do if there is an understanding in basic tax laws that families can tap into to make their money work for them and not have one work hard for their money - there's a difference. My husband and I come from strict work ethic families. But our outlook is to do so and still give to community issues while balancing a family in providing a strong foundation. I prefer to not work hard for the money anymore and chase the fast lane of earning. Too much of a price to pay where family is sacrificed in time and management. There are more kids in childcare hours than in family hours these days. The way to do this is PLANNING & FOLLOWING BUDGET...how you run a business is how you also run your family as far as "structure". The benefits is PROVIDING NEEDS for the family. The "perks or bonus" is at times you also PROVIDE WANTS only as a reward after meeting NEEDS. But before any wants you have to earn it to deserve it..SMILE.
    • CLARIFICATION OF LIBERATED CURRENCIES:

      When we go to war whether in our country or in other countries and we find U.S. dollars in the hands of insurgents or potential enemies, etc , it is confiscated irregardless if it belonged in our posession. The rule of thumb on this is that "if it used for unilateral corruption, US can take the money" British Crown had pound sterling, The French had their Swiss Franc and when it was found it went right back to the country of origin.

      So, for the Hawaiian Kingdom as one that is established and recognized today, if we find our monies we can take it back under these conditions. However, a political war has to be recognized GLOBALLY like a physical war. NATO has to be behind us to do this. How do you think places like the former soviet union where all one government is now a handful of provincial governments? For descriptive purposes in the understanding of what I mean here: WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK BACKWARDS. I haven't heard anyone mention this ever as a tactic to get our "hawaiian currency" back noting also that those "hawaiian currencies" are now collectibles and held by private owners whom are/are not insurgents or enemies pending their family role if any in the occupation tactic..lol.

      In real time information that is how a situation like this works.
  • I wouldn't pay any attention to this type of propaganda. You have to look at the entire picture not just one incident to pass an informed decision. I refrain from utilizing the word JUDGEMENT as it is to be used when you judge someones "works" not work, there is a difference.

    Obama has to clean up a lot of opala he didn't create. He also has to make decisions on those that impose on their resume whom they are as their word of whom they are. One great thing by having Lynn in the department is to make Lynn accountable if it is the truth. Most times in government people like Lynn are their scape goat(s). Apparently Lynn does not have a problem in facing this if it is a truth. Today americans and non americans are putting people under a microscope for good reasons...we don't want idiots running the USS Bullshit.

    Half of Ratheon's workload is subcontracting. The divisions and departments and their heads are given the signature of okay to approve these contracts. All the comptroller does is to pass it through the system or "chain of commands" as voted on the board before it comes to the Comptroller. The Comptroller is not the autitor, just the issuer. Auditors find the discrepancies otherwise how else would we know this. It's a set up in any government to keep things on task based on the roles/duties of each individual. When you are voted or appointed to any office of governemnt there is a loyalty and and oath to uphold to because you represent the public in making sure things get done the way it sets up itself to run.

    Here we have someone within the department with a personal gain and in the mess it will come out. The Comptroller is not to be blamed, he is told the problem and now to find the root which is never an easy thing to prove because you are innocent until proven so. In government when you have a union backed employee there are strict guidelines to follow. They handle it internally first and that sometimes can take a long time even years to find a patern of paperwork if available and not destroyed as well as setting up surveillance which you tread on privacy issues - again construed by some to be harrassment at the workplace. If not handled appropriately, government can have a suit of harrassment at the work place and so discretely handling it within a "whistler blower" role of someone is another step of finding truth.

    You must remember, under Clinton's Administration we had a surplus not a deficit.

    Ratheon has been in business for contracts with the federal government for about 60 years. So out of the 60 years there is a pattern which must be looked into. To say there is funding missing in the defense department may also be not so much the cash but the supplies and equipment other than salaries and the funds to do business to carry out the task - used as the cash for it. If you purchase equipment, it should show on the books but we don't know if there is an auditor within the company. However only the Department of Treasury and IRS would know this because numbers don't lie.

    So, if the Deparment of Treasury and IRS is not looking into it then you have more than the Defense Department involved. In my opinion, this is just "sound bites" it isn't the whole story. When you talk TRILLIONS you know there is more than a Comptroller involved - that's just plain common sense.

    I just had to say this because unless you understand the dynamics of running government which is for all purpose a business of running "something" and in this case a country...numbers gotta match and with the numbers there is some pen pushing it through and someone is holding the pen. God forbid there is also a gun to someone's head holding that pen. They are all at the mercy of their superiors its a matter of HOW TO HANDLE IT NOW!

    My husband is a veteran of the first gulf war USMC, he believes that it is NOT in our best interest to be the world's police force and I agree with him as well. So we encourage education and health in our children and will not support them in any armed services as a career. NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS...FINAL!
    • Thank you for your analytical opinion. You are right, the numbers don't lie, but we don't have the power to investigate the missing billions. And if the government does not do it, it is a red flag in the eyes of the public, plus an incentive for the lower levels to steal, cheat and deceive, because they see that on the top someone succeeded and there are no waves and they can get away with it. I am not an illwisher of Obama, but I don't want to fall into the trap of the general adoration either.

      I don't care about the dynamics of the haole government, but if someone is the chief financial officer of a government entity or corporation, moneywise the buck stops there. He/she has the power to investigate missing funds (especially big amounts) in the structure under him/her. Don't tell me that the IRS should do it. If I have an employee handling the money, and if I find out that funds are missing, I am the first one to investigate it, and not wait for the police or FBI or IRS.

      I agree with you - our children and grandchildren have no place in the military of the foreign occupation forces occupying ku`u Kō Hawai`i Pae ‘Āina.

      Me ke aloha

      Janos Keoni Samu
      • Investigations are already being done...but the focus on whom it should be done on is misleading. The IRS is part of the investigation and once it ties into the Treasury that is where the focus should be on. Where do you think all the LIBERATED CURRENCIES are held after a take down? If it's US, it returns to the US, if it's foreign...NO COMMENT because it will surface...this IS where the dynamics of the "haole government" you should care about because THAT is not propaganda...SMILE. It is a reality and why we hold Obama to his word of transparency www.recovery.com This site is fairly new but I would hope that they will post more discrepancies like investigations. And if they don't at this site I will hope they will create one just for discrepancies.

        So, unless you truly understand in what you post you need to first understand HOW it works. Because what you provide as information is educating people here...that for me is important when it comes to providing information that is complete.

        I mean no disrespect here but getting to the root of issues is most important as how it trickles out to those being informed. This way, people can have a truly informed discussion.

        I know we all have pain over what was done to us as koko. However to simply point fingers all the time doesn't get us anywhere. When engaging in discussions between nations it is better to keep an open mind and be heard than be put out as a noisemaker and never be heard.

        We should not pick on leaders of any countries or we will never have relations to even gain entry to the doorway for a sitdown discussion - that's just plain politics at its reason of creating sanity and
        stability. The only way to do this is to have unity in a concrete direction - but of course this is just my opinion however you choose to classify it as.
        • Aloha no,

          Yes, I know that investigations are being done. Last November we filed a Freedom of Information request with the US Department of Defense to find out what the investigators found regarding the missing 13 billion US$ in reconstruction funds from the books of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, discovered in June 2004.

          Last month we received a response: "...we are unable to provide any information on matters under investigation or those related to the national security of the United States".

          Could you explain HOW it works? Please allow me a sarcastic smile for the ongoing investigation lasting more than four years. I am an optimist, and I was an optimist even as a political prisoner, but my experience is that in financial matters any investigation that is not concluded within 6 months, will not be able to turn up anything later. And I can assure you that I have an open mind.

          Perhaps this is the case here too:
          "From the report of Dave Lindorff, "The Case of the Missing $21 Billion: Who's Following the Iraq Money?"
          [...] President Bush has been quietly setting aside over 750 acts passed by Congress, claiming he has the authority as "unitary executive" and as commander in chief to ignore such laws, it turned out that one of the laws the president chose to ignore was the one establishing the inspector general post for Iraq. What the president did was write a so-called signing statement on the side (unpublicized of course -- though it was quietly posted on the White House website), saying that the new inspector general would have no authority to investigate any contracts or corruption issues involving the Pentagon.

          As the signing statement puts it:
          Title III of the Act creates an Inspector General (IG) of the CPA. Title III shall be construed in a manner consistent with the President's constitutional authorities to conduct the Nation's foreign affairs, to supervise the unitary executive branch, and as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. The CPA IG shall refrain from initiating, carrying out, or completing an audit or investigation, or from issuing a subpoena, which requires access to sensitive operation plans, intelligence matters, counterintelligence matters, ongoing criminal investigations by other administrative units of the Department of Defense related to national security, or other matters the disclosure of which would constitute a serious threat to national security.
          Well, since most of the missing money has been going to or through the military in Iraq, and since the president can define just about anything having to do with Iraq as "national security," that pretty much meant nothing of consequence would be discovered by the inspector general in Iraq. "

          As to your point on propaganda, how do you separate propaganda from information. Yes, every message, every blog and every publication is education for those who are not familiar with the subject or some details of the subject. Should we withhold information, because the roots are not unearthed yet, or an investigation is not concluded? If this is what you think, please tell it to the media giants. When we are conveying information, we leave the interpretation and the conclusion to the intelligence of the reader or viewer or listener. Some may be interested, many won't be.

          By the way, I have no clue what you mean under LIBERATED CURRENCIES. Do you mean the 1.8 billion dollar in sized assets in Iraq, that until today the Coalition Provisional Authority could not account for?

          And finally picking on leaders. Correct, I agree that you should not pick on leaders of any country, but you should criticize them if you suspect that something is wrong, because without criticism there is no progress. And if you consider criticism to be picking on someone, I might have paved my way to hell, because I had criticized George Bush on quite a few occasions.

          Yes, unity is very important in matters of independence, freedom, sovereignty and that's what I have experienced at the Ku i ka Pono in Honolulu last month. Our approach still might be different, but c'est la vie.

          Mahalo nu`i for your mana`o.

          Me ke aloha
          Janos Keoni Samu
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