Race IssuesCIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVITIES AFFECTING HAWAII/HAWAIIAN ISLANDS/HAWAIIAN ARCHIPELAGO 1863 Slaves were freed through the Emancipation Proclamation by President Abraham Lincoln. 1868 All Americans were given rights in the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution. 1870 Male American citizens were given the right to vote in the Fifteenth Amendment Of the Constitution. 1893 Queen Liliuokalani, of the Kingdom of Hawaii was dethroned by Conspirators/TERRORISTS/Provisional Government an Entity –Americans And followers supported by the United States government. The white males, Most who were sugar planters, American missionaries, bankers, American spies were the minority in the islands. Queen Liliuokalani was documented “NIGGER” In Congressional records. Therefore, all Hawaiians/kanaka maoli were looked at In the same way as the other NIGGERS/Blacks/Colored/African Americans. Being that the Constitution does NOT FOLLOW THE FLAG, Hawaii remained In a slave-like state maintained by plantation owners, who were and are actually Criminal deviants/PIRATES/Conspirator/TERRORISTS who have NO INTEREST IN LANDS THAT STILL HAS OWNERS who were considered NIGGERS at the time. 1896 Segregation was upheld by the Supreme Court in the case Plessy v. Ferguson. “Separate” facilities could be kept, providing they were “equal.” 1909 The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) was Formed by intellectuals (black and white) after the riots in Springfield, Illinois. 1939 Marian Anderson, a black singer, drew a crowd of 75,000 at the Lincoln Memorial after she was refused from singing in the Constitution Hall by the Daughters of the American Revolution. 1942 An interracial group, CORE/Congress of Racial Equality was founded in New York City. 1947 Major league baseball allowed Jackie Robinson to be the first black player. 1954 The Supreme Court banned public schools segregation in the case Brown vs. Board of Education. 1955 Elderly black woman, Rosa Parks, refused her seat to a white in Montgomery, Alabama. Bus boycotts followed for a year, finally leading to Montgomery Desegregation on the buses. 1957 The Governor of Littlerock, Arkansas, Orval Faubus, tried to block black Students from entering Central High School. President Eisenhower called a thousand paratroopers to restore order in Littlerock. 1960 In Greensboro, North Carolina, blacks – evolved name African-American College students insisted on lunch counter service in Woolworth’s. A country wide “sit-in” protest began. 1961 CORE/Congress of Racial Equality groups of black and whites tested bus rides In the South. 1963 Martin Luther King, Jr. and a group of ministers were arrested for demonstrating In Birmingham, Alabama. In the march on Washington, King, Jr. gave his Significant speech “I Have a Dream”. 1964 Three of Mississippi’s civil rights workers were murdered. The Civil Rights Act Was signed into law by President Johnson. The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded To Martin Luther King, Jr. 1965 Martin Luther King, Jr. led a Selma to Montgomery march leading to the Voting Rights Act. Malcolm X, black leader, was murdered. 1968 Martin Luther King, Jr., Reverend, was assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee with Black riots in 125 cities for a week. 1978 The city of Seattle became the largest U.S. city to voluntarily desegregate their schools without a court order. 1980 A Second Constitution was passed, ALL AMERICANS ARE SLAVES, etc. See John B. Nelson's Article on other page, legal scholar - legal research RE: Senate No. 93-549, etc. *****************************************************************
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Martin Luther King Jr. Was a Radical, Not a Saint
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Today Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. is viewed as something of an American saint. His birthday is a national holiday. His name adorns schools and street signs. Americans from across the political spectrum invoke King's name to justify their beliefs and actions, as President Barack Obama will no doubt do in his second Inaugural speech and as gun fanatic Larry Ward recently did in outrageously claiming that King would have opposed proposals to restrict access to guns.
So it is easy to forget that in his day, in his own country, King was considered a dangerous troublemaker. He was harassed by the FBI and vilified in the media.
In fact, King was a radical. He believed that America needed a "radical redistribution of economic and political power." He challenged America's class system and its racial caste system. He was a strong ally of the nation's labor union movement. He was assassinated in April 1968 in Memphis, where he had gone to support a sanitation workers' strike. He opposed U.S. militarism and imperialism, especially the country's misadventure in Vietnam.
In his critique of American society and his strategy for changing it, King pushed the country toward more democracy and social justice.
If he were alive today, he would certainly be standing with Walmart employees and other workers fighting for a living wage and the right to unionize. He would be in the forefront of the battle for strong gun controls and to thwart the influence of the National Rifle Association. He would be calling for dramatic cuts in the military budget in order to reinvest public dollars in jobs, education, and health care. He would surely be marching with immigrants and their allies in support of the Dream Act and comprehensive reform. Like most Americans in his day, King was homophobic, even though one of his closest advisors, Bayard Rustin, was gay. But today King would undoubtedly stand with advocates of LGBT rights and same-sex marriage.
Indeed, King's views evolved over time. He entered the public stage with some hesitation, reluctantly becoming the spokesperson for the Montgomery bus boycott in 1955 at the age of 26. King began his activism in Montgomery as a crusader against the nation's racial caste system, but the struggle for civil rights radicalized him into a fighter for broader economic and social justice and peace. Still, in reviewing King's life, we can see that the seeds of his later radicalism were planted early.
King was born in Atlanta, Georgia in 1929, the son of a prominent black minister. Despite growing up in a solidly middle-class family, King saw the widespread human suffering caused by the Depression, particularly in the black community. In 1950, while in graduate school, he wrote an essay describing the "anti-capitalistic feelings" he experienced as a result of seeing unemployed people standing in breadlines.
During King's first year at Morehouse College, civil rights and labor activist A. Philip Randolph spoke on campus. Randolph predicted that the near future would witness a global struggle that would end white supremacy and capitalism. He urged the students to link up with "the people in the shacks and the hovels," who, although "poor in property," were "rich in spirit."
After graduating from Morehouse in 1948, King studied theology at Crozer Theological Seminary in Pennsylvania (where he read both Mohandas Gandhi and Karl Marx), planning to follow in his father's footsteps and join the ministry. In 1955 he earned his doctorate from Boston University, where he studied the works of Reinhold Niebuhr, the influential liberal theologian. While in Boston, he told his girlfriend (and future wife), Coretta Scott, that "a society based on making all the money you can and ignoring people's needs is wrong."
When King moved to Montgomery to take his first pulpit at the Dexter Avenue Baptist Church, he was full of ideas but had no practical experience in politics or activism. But history sneaked up on him. On Thursday, December 1, 1955, Rosa Parks, a seamstress and veteran activist with the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), decided to resist the city's segregation law by refusing to move to the back of the bus on her way home from work. She was arrested. Two other long-term activists -- E. D. Nixon (leader of the NAACP and of the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters) and Jo Ann Robinson (a professor at the all-black Alabama State College and a leader of Montgomery's Women's Political Council) -- determined that Parks' arrest was a ripe opportunity for a one-day boycott of the much-despised segregated bus system. Nixon and Robinson asked black ministers to use their Sunday sermons to spread the word. Some refused, but many others, including King, agreed.
The boycott was very effective. Most black residents stayed off the buses. Within days, the boycott leaders formed a new group, the Montgomery Improvement Association (MIA). At Nixon's urging, they elected a hesitant King as president, in large part because he was new in town and not embroiled in the competition for congregants and visibility among black ministers. He was also well educated and already a brilliant orator, and thus would be a good public face for the protest movement. The ministers differed over whether to call off the boycott after one day but agreed to put the question up to a vote at a mass meeting.
That night, 7,000 blacks crowded into (and stood outside) the Holt Street Baptist Church. Inspired by King's words --"There comes a time when people get tired of being trampled over by the iron feet of oppression"-- they voted unanimously to continue the boycott. It lasted for 381 days and resulted in the desegregation of the city's buses. During that time, King honed his leadership skills, aided by advice from two veteran pacifist organizers, Bayard Rustin and Rev. Glenn Smiley, who had been sent to Montgomery by the pacifist group, Fellowship of Reconciliation. During the boycott, King was arrested, his home was bombed, and he was subjected to personal abuse. But -- with the assistance of the new medium of television -- he emerged as a national figure.
In 1957 King launched the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) to help spread the civil rights crusade to other cities. He helped lead local campaigns in different cities, including Selma and Birmingham, Alabama, where thousands marched to demand an end to segregation in defiance of court injunctions forbidding any protests. While participating in these protests, King also sought to keep the fractious civil rights movement together, despite the rivalries among the NAACP, the Urban League, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE), and SCLC. Between 1957 and 1968 King traveled over six million miles, spoke over 2,500 times, and was arrested at least 20 times, always preaching the gospel of nonviolence. King attended workshops at the Highlander Folk School in Tennessee, which connected him to a network of radicals, pacifists, and union activists from around the country whose ideas helped widen his political horizons.
It is often forgotten that the August 1963 protest rally at the Lincoln Memorial, where King delivered his famous "I Have a Dream" speech, was called the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom. King was proud of the civil rights movement's success in winning the passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act the following year. But he realized that neither law did much to provide better jobs or housing for the masses of black poor in either the urban cities or the rural South. "What good is having the right to sit at a lunch counter," he asked, "if you can't afford to buy a hamburger?"
King had hoped that the bus boycott, sit-ins, and other forms of civil disobedience would stir white southern moderates, led by his fellow clergy, to see the immorality of segregation and racism. His famous "Letter from a Birmingham Jail," written in 1963, outlines King's strategy of using nonviolent civil disobedience to force a response from the southern white establishment and to generate sympathy and support among white liberals and moderates. "The purpose of our direct-action program is to create a situation so crisis-packed that it will inevitably open the door to negotiation," he wrote, and added, "We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."
King eventually realized that many white Americans had at least a psychological stake in perpetuating racism. He began to recognize that racial segregation was devised not only to oppress African Americans but also to keep working-class whites from challenging their own oppression by letting them feel superior to blacks. "The Southern aristocracy took the world and gave the poor white man Jim Crow," King said from the Capitol steps in Montgomery, following the 1965 march from Selma. "And when his wrinkled stomach cried out for the food that his empty pockets could not provide, he ate Jim Crow, a psychological bird that told him that no matter how bad off he was, at least he was a white man, better than a black man."
When King launched a civil rights campaign in Chicago in 1965, he was shocked by the hatred and violence expressed by working-class whites as he and his followers marched through the streets of segregated neighborhoods in Chicago and its suburbs. He saw that the problem in Chicago's ghetto was not legal segregation but "economic exploitation" -- slum housing, overpriced food, and low-wage jobs -- "because someone profits from its existence."
These experiences led King to develop a more radical outlook. King supported President Lyndon B. Johnson's declaration of the War on Poverty in 1964, but, like his friend and ally Walter Reuther, the president of the United Auto Workers, King thought that it did not go nearly far enough. As early as October 1964, he called for a "gigantic Marshall Plan" for the poor -- black and white. Two months later, accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo, he observed that the United States could learn much from Scandinavian "democratic socialism." He began talking openly about the need to confront "class issues," which he described as "the gulf between the haves and the have nots."
In 1966 King confided to his staff:
“You can't talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can't talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You're really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry. Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong with capitalism. There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism."
Given this view, King was dismayed when Malcolm X, SNCC's Stokely Carmichael, and others began advocating "black power," which he warned would alienate white allies and undermine a genuine interracial movement for economic justice.
King became increasingly committed to building bridges between the civil rights and labor movements. Invited to address the AFL-CIO's annual convention in 1961, King observed, "The labor movement did not diminish the strength of the nation but enlarged it. By raising the living standards of millions, labor miraculously created a market for industry and lifted the whole nation to undreamed of levels of production. Those who today attack labor forget these simple truths, but history remembers them." In a 1961 speech to the Negro American Labor Council, King proclaimed, "Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God's children." Speaking to a meeting of Teamsters union shop stewards in 1967, King said, "Negroes are not the only poor in the nation. There are nearly twice as many white poor as Negro, and therefore the struggle against poverty is not involved solely with color or racial discrimination but with elementary economic justice."
King's growing critique of capitalism coincided with his views about American imperialism. By 1965 he had turned against the Vietnam War, viewing it as an economic as well as a moral tragedy. But he was initially reluctant to speak out against the war. He understood that his fragile working alliance with LBJ would be undone if he challenged the president's leadership on the war. Although some of his close advisers tried to discourage him, he nevertheless made the break in April 1967, in a bold and prophetic speech at the Riverside Church in New York City, entitled "Beyond Vietnam--A Time to Break Silence." King called America the "greatest purveyor of violence in the world today" and linked the struggle for social justice with the struggle against militarism. King argued that Vietnam was stealing precious resources from domestic programs and that the Vietnam War was "an enemy of the poor." In his last book, Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community? (1967), King wrote, "The bombs in Vietnam explode at home; they destroy the hopes and possibilities for a decent America."
In early 1968, King told journalist David Halberstam, "For years I labored with the idea of reforming the existing institutions of society, a little change here, a little change there. Now I feel quite differently. I think you've got to have a reconstruction of the entire society, a revolution of values."
King kept trying to build a broad movement for economic justice that went beyond civil rights. In January 1968 he announced plans for a Poor People's Campaign, a series of protests to be led by an interracial coalition of poor people and their allies among the middle-class liberals, unions, religious organizations, and other progressive groups, to pressure the White House and Congress to expand the War on Poverty. At King's request, socialist activist Michael Harrington (author of The Other America, which helped inspire Presidents Kennedy and Johnson to declare a war on poverty) drafted a Poor People's Manifesto that outlined the campaign's goals. In April King was in Memphis, Tennessee, to help lend support to striking African American garbage workers and to gain recognition for their union. There he was assassinated at age 39 on April 4, a few months before the first protest action of the Poor People's Campaign in Washington, DC.
President Johnson utilized this national tragedy to urge Congress to quickly enact the Fair Housing Act, legislation to ban racial discrimination in housing that King had strongly supported for two years. He signed the bill a week after King's assassination.
The campaign for a federal holiday in King's honor, spearheaded by Detroit Congressman John Conyers, began soon after his murder, but it did not come up for a vote in Congress until 1979, when it fell five votes short of the number needed for passage. In 1981, with the help of singer Stevie Wonder and other celebrities, supporters collected six million signatures on a petition to Congress on behalf of a King holiday. Congress finally passed legislation enacting the holiday in 1983, fifteen years after King's death. But even then, 90 members of the House (including then-Congressmen John McCain of Arizona and Richard Shelby of Alabama, both now in the Senate) voted against it. Senator Jesse Helms, a North Carolina Republican, led an unsuccessful effort -- supported by 21 other senators, including current Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) -- to block its passage in the Senate.
The holiday was first observed on January 20, 1986. In 1987 Arizona governor Evan Mecham rescinded King Day as his first act in office, setting off a national boycott of the state. Some states (including New Hampshire, which called it "Civil Rights Day" from 1991 to 1999) insisted on calling the holiday by other names. In 2000 South Carolina became the last state to make King Day a paid holiday for all state employees.
In his final speech in Memphis the night before he was killed, King told the crowd about a bomb threat on his plane from Atlanta that morning, saying he knew that his life was constantly in danger because of his political activism.
"I would like to live a long life," he said. "Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And he's allowed me to go up to the mountain, and I've looked over, and I've seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight that we as a people will get to the promised land."
We haven't gotten there yet. But Dr. King is still with us in spirit. The best way to honor his memory is to continue the struggle for human dignity, workers' rights, racial equality, peace, and social justice.
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Racism Still Divides Black and White America
May-June 1991
A Discussion with Tom Skinner
PITTSBURGH—[The featured speaker at this year's jubilee Conference, February 22-24, sponsored by the Coalition for Christian Outreach, was evangelist Tom Skinner. Late Saturday night in the hotel lounge, Mr. Skinner engaged several conferees in a heated discussion about racism in contemporary America. Our thanks to Association for Public Justice member Wendy Sereda for recording about half of the conversation. We are grateful to Tom Skinner for agreeing to let us publish edited excerpts from it here. The questions and comments come from different participants in the discussion. We welcome further response from readers. —Ed.]
Question: Why do so many black Americans experience discrimination today after so much progress in civil rights reform over the last four decades?
Skinner: African Americans made the mistake of buying the message of "the American melting pot under God." African Americans did not realize that America did not intend to include them in that idea. So while the civil rights laws of the 1980s were passed, they never passed in the hearts and intent of the American people.
African Americans let the white majority into their political and economic lives without whites letting African Americans into their lives. Until African Americans build their own economic base by doing at least 35 percent of their business with one another, and saving and investing their money in their own community, the discrimination will never end, Until African Americans elect to public office people who are accountable to the African American community, the discrimination will never end.
Question: But what about changes in the law—after Supreme Court decisions such as Brown vs. Board of Education? Didn't those make it possible for you to begin entering fully into the American mainstream?
Skinner: There were only three major Supreme Court decisions that affected African Americans. The first one was Dred Scott,1857. It said black people have no rights that white people are bound to respect. The next decision was Plessy v. Ferguson, 1896: separate but equal. Third was Brown v. Board of Education, 1954, saying that there should be integration with all due deliberate speed. The only one of those three decisions that America has ever obeyed is Dred Scott—that black folks have no rights which white people are bound to respect. They never obeyed the others. Rather than empowering themselves, African Americans pursued the illusive dream of integration, and it is destroying us.
Question: Why?
Skinner: Under segregation we built and were in charge of our own institutions. We ran our own schools, built our own banks, and started our own colleges. Under segregation we did not have to use words like "role models" because that's what everyone was in the African American community. In my neighborhood, Duke Ellington, James Baldwin, Thurgood Marshall, Adam Clayton Powell, Jr., Malcolm X, Jackie Robinson were everyday common occurrences on our streets. When integration came, it meant that that those who could afford it and qualified were integrated into white society, while the rest stayed behind. Thus we needed role models. When integration occurred, the black leaders of the black community integrated into the white community. But they were never allowed to hold the same positions of leadership and power that they held in the black community.
Question: Whose idea was integration?
Skinner: Integration has always been a white liberal idea. Integration has always been on white people's terms. It is black folks integrating into white churches, white schools, and white neighborhoods. It is never whites attending black colleges, joining black churches, and moving into black neighborhoods, except to move blacks out. The assumption was that black folks would step up by integrating into white society and the whites would step down by integrating into black society.
Question: But why did white leaders want to integrate blacks into white America?
Skinner: The African Americans who influence and provide leadership for the black community did most of the integrating. Integration allowed white society to pacify and control African American leaders and reap the lion's share of African American dollars through trade.
Question: But didn't we also want to help blacks?
Skinner: The question is, how did you want to help blacks' After 40 years of white help, no African American is qualified to be the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. After 40 years of integration, no African American is qualified to be the president of a major Christian college in America. After 40 years of white help, African Americans are excluded from the faculty throughout the disciplines of most academic institutions. White people in America still don't know black people. Your Christian periodicals do not tell you of the activity of the Holy Spirit among black people. Your lack of demand for such information helps to create the problem.
Question: But do you know white people?
Skinner: In order to put dinner on my family's table I have to be an expert on white society. I cannot graduate from school without reading white people's literature, studying white people's music and art. I cannot make it without understanding white people's history. Every day that an African American wakes up he has to make judgments about what white people are going to do today simply in order to survive. White people do not have to understand or know what black people are doing in order to survive.
As a result of our expertise on white folks we know them better than they know themselves. In addition, the sad fact is that we know white people better than we know ourselves. We have a far greater capacity as African Americans to love and forgive white people than we do to love and forgive ourselves. We have not made white people the enemy in spite of all that they have inflicted on us. But you keep locking us out.
Comment: I agree with you that the idea of integration behind Brown vs. Board of Education implied that black people couldn't make it on their own—that they couldn't really be human until they were integrated into white America.
Skinner: African Americans once believed the integrationist idea. We traded our independence because we thought the American integrationist dream was a reality. It turned out to be a lie. Now African Americans will have to empower themselves. African Americans will have to take charge of the 300(r) billion dollars that they spend within America on a current annual basis. They will have to take charge of the political process of their own communities. African Americans must take charge of their destiny and sojourn in this country.
Question: But I don't understand how you are locked out?
Skinner: That is absolutely amazing. I find it hard to believe that you live in 1991 and don't understand how African Americans are locked out.
In 1964, African Americans' income was 58 percent of white people's income. In 1991, African Americans' income is 57 percent of white people's income. Nothing has changed in 26 years. Now that's either because white folks have created it or because black folk have brought it on themselves.
African Americans are not sitting around denying themselves an income. It is the system that has locked us out of full participation in the economy. You and your children can still go to Stanford or Harvard, get an MBA, enter corporate America, and have a shot at one day running the company. My children have no such opportunity. They have all the qualifications, but you won't let them in.
Question: But why should success be defined as "entering corporate America?"
Skinner: I use corporate American as an example of being locked out of all the institutions of America. Particularly the economic institutions that have so wide an impact on the quality of life in America.
I define success as the sharing of power in every sector that affects America, and the ability of a people to contribute to what the country they are living in is going to be like. African Americans are not allowed to do this. Simply pointing to individual African American superstars in sports, the military, entertainment, or politics will not do.
Question: What proportion is due to black people?
Skinner: If you remove all the barriers that obstruct us; allow us to show power in the local communities, cities, states, and the country as a whole, equal to our numbers; allow the tax dollars of our communities to produce the best in education and training for our young people, the best in services for our poor and disadvantaged—allow this, and we will do well. We have always done well when the rules of the game are the same for everybody. If we fail in these circumstances, then the failure is ours. Give us that right.
Question: But you're a success, aren't you? You haven't been personally locked out.
Skinner: I am amazed that you think I am successful. Whatever success I have is due to my understanding of white people and my desire to serve black people. Imagine what I could accomplish if the barriers that obstruct me because of my color were removed. In order to succeed, I have to be twice as good as a white person who is doing similar work. When I am allowed to be as mediocre as white people and reap all their benefits, that will be success. I have to be twice as good to reap the same rewards.
Question: So you think all whites are mediocre?
Skinner: How can you be anything but, when you have eliminated all the competition except for other white folks. You've eliminated 30 million black people from the competition. There is not one white person who wants to be president of a major corporation or president of a major university who has to worry about competition from an African American. White people are not operating on a level playing field. By virtue of being white, doors open to you. It's not because you are qualified but because you are white. White people are allowed to bankrupt their financial institutions and get the taxpayers to foot the bill to the tune of one trillion dollars. That is mediocre.
There is a fear that if African Americans are allowed into the system on an equal basis, allowed to learn the rules of the game and everyone plays fair, that we would win. Whenever African Americans are allowed in and to play by the same rules, we succeed. But, those who own the system are allowed to change the rules of the game at will. They operate informally through their "ole boy" network that African Americans are not allowed to be part of.
Question: Can you talk about justice here? What is justice for black people?
Skinner: We have been talking about justice. African Americans have been talking about justice for 370 years in this country. Having been denied justice for so long, we have become experts on the subject.
The law should be distributed equally to all people. Not blacks getting a sentence that is twice as stiff as a white person committing the same crime. We should all be disciplined and judged by the same set of standards. Justice means that all of us should have the same access to all the resources that God created in the earth, that no one should go lacking because of his or her sex or skin color or religion. That's what justice means.
Justice means that the rich and the poor should be judged alike, that no person would be poor because of conditions created by the larger society. If people are poor, it should be that they choose to be poor. Most poor people in our society do not choose poverty. More than 75 percent of all poor people work every single day. We must eliminate conditions in the society that create poverty. The same quality of health services, education, housing, nutrition, and clothing available to white children should be available to black children. Right now it is just not so!
Question: Why? How so?
Skinner: When America builds school systems in middle and upper middle class white communities, they are equipped differently then those made available to children in the black community.
Comment: But that's not the case just with blacks. There are poor white people too.
Skinner: Don't confuse racism with classism. Many whites may be poor because of classism. I would like a situation in America where black people are poor for the same reasons that white people are poor. African Americans are poor predominantly because of racism. Poor black people get hit for both race reasons and class reasons. The only tools that African Americans have for establishing justice is to affect the bottom line of the white majority. If you affect white folks where it touches their pocket books, they will make some changes. White America does not make changes for moral and justice reasons.
Comment: I agree that this is still true in some respects today, but I'm an attorney and I don't think the law and legal system are biased any longer against black people. Everyone—black, white, rich, poor—gets the same treatment in my office.
Skinner: But the legal system is prejudiced against poor people and black people. If, for example, you look at each step along the way in the criminal justice process, from picking up a suspect to the final step of sentencing and incarceration, the American Bar Association has proven that a black person is far more likely than a white person to be picked up and then moved along through all the steps toward incarceration. If you have money, you are more likely to get adequate legal representation and to beat the system.
A poor person is given a public defender who has a case load of 25 other clients and meager resources who goes up against a district attorney who has a staff of 25 people assisting him or her on the case and the full resources of the taxpayers. It is very difficult to beat that kind of system.
Just because the law says something, it does not mean it is reality. The law said "separate but equal." We know it was separate be never equal. The law said "universal suffrage." It was not until the 1964 voting rights act that we were able to get the federal laws to make the local officials allow this. Complete voting rights are still not the reality in every part of this nation. The law is not reality.
Question: Is there a parallel here to what America is doing in the Persian Gulf? Are we there only because of our bottom line?
Skinner: Yes there is. We're in the Persian Gulf for economic reasons. For almost 150 days the price of oil was out of whack. This brought relief to the five states in America that are oil states and that have the worst Savings and Loan problems--California, Colorado, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Texas.
American companies will receive contracts of over 80 billion dollars to rebuild Kuwait. Bechtel and Company, the same company that former Secretary of State George Shultz came from, won the contracts to rebuild the bridges in Kuwait and Iraq the day the cease-fire was announced.
Saddam Hussein used to be on our payroll. Most of his weapons we sold to him for economic reasons.
The defense contractors in America must replace all of those weapons and equipment used doing the war. Fighter planes at 30 million dollars per. Tomahawk missiles at one million dollars per. Patriot missiles at $800,000 per. The bottom line is the name of the game.
When some of us said, "Let's build low income housing for the homeless," the country said there is no money. But we have found $500 billion to bail out the Savings and Loans. When we said, "Let's provide basic health service for every poor person in America and feed the hungry," the country said there is no money. But somehow we found $80 billion to fight the Persian Gulf War.
Question: But don't you think there is a difference between Christians and non-Christians in all of this? You talk about all whites and blacks as if they're the same?
Skinner: For African Americans there is no difference between white Christians and white non-believers on matters of race, bigotry, and prejudice. In fact, the more a white person claims to be a Bible-believing Christian, the more likely he or she is to be distant from African Americans—more distant than a white non-believing liberal. That is the reason African Americans don't buy the line that "Jesus is the answer.' African Americans don't believe that white Christians who love Jesus act any differently towards them than do white people who don't love Jesus. The most segregated institution in America is the church. The most segregated hour in America is eleven o'clock on Sunday morning. Less than one percent of the students at white Christian colleges is African American.
For over 300 years in this country, white Christians were committed to a theology that said black people were cursed by God and relegated to their condition of servitude. It is the same theology that prevails in South Africa today.
White American Christians are more committed to America and the American dream than they are to the Kingdom of God. So when it comes to racism, Jesus does not seem to make a difference.
Question: So what happens now? Where do we go from here?
Skinner: White America always follows the money. If African Americans want justice, they must spend the majority of their 300 billion dollars with themselves. African Americans eat 52 percent of the peanuts eaten in America, but they own no peanut farms or factories. African Americans eat 55 percent of all potato chips eaten in America, but they have no potato chip factories. African Americans eat six hundred million dollars worth of candy, but they own no candy factories. This must change, and white people who love Christ and are of good will must help.
African Americans must pool their resources, take control of their own educational institutions, take responsibility for their children, and do business with one another. The impact of this effort will be so positive and so great that it will attract the majority just so they can do business with such a prosperous community.
White society only understands power. When you have power, the system will always talk to you.
In white America things are decided informally—in the country clubs, in conversations that take place behind the scenes. That's the way America is, and we are locked out of it, so we have to figure out how to take care of ourselves and not depend on the myth of integration into a white American dream.
[Read responses to this interview from two readers: "Racism in America: Responses to Tom Skinner"]
Reference: http://www.cpjustice.org/stories/storyReader$1024
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