Professor (?) Curtis on Terrorism
I find it extremely manipulative and insulting that Professor (?) Curtis
should create a thought to link terrorism with the Hawaiian National
Sovereignty Movement. I find this motivation of his repugnant and
question his degree he has received to teach or be credible in any
fashion.
One doesnʻt need a certification of academia to understand the dynamics
of what is within the realm of terrorism. For one thing, terrorism is
committed by a bully, whether a person, government, or a nation. We
can see the U.S.A. as a rogue, war-mongering nation that terrorizes
other nations; governments, and people. Any defense or retaliation
against such conduct has been regarded by the U.S. as
reverse-terrorism. Anyone who stands up to a bully is not the
terrorist. Itʻs smug, arrogant, and disingenuous to semantically label
resistance to a bully as being terroristic. One doesnʻt need a college
degree to figure this out or question the dynamics of whom are the
terrorists.
Only simpletons will kowtow to his logic and thoughts that he attempts to implant on the impressionable simple-minded souls.
Mahalo,
Tane
Pearl City, HI
(808) 456-5772
tane_1@msn.com
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:37:36 -0400
Subject: Terrorism talk stirs emotions (Sovereignty supporters angered by study......
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Terrorism talk stirs emotions
Sovereignty supporters angered by study on homegrown violence
by Colin M. Stewart
Tribune-Herald Staff Writer
A speaker at a meeting of the Conservative Forum for Hawaii riled supporters of the Hawaiian sovereignty movement, although he never actually shared his thoughts or research on the subject.
University of Hawaii at Hilo Sociology Department chairman and professor Thom Curtis gave a
Powerpoint presentation Sunday afternoon at Naniloa Volcanoes Resort in which he
discussed his studies of homegrown Islamic terrorism.
In a release provided to the Tribune-Herald and printed in the Thursday edition of the
newspaper, Conservative Forum President Walter Moe was quoted as saying that
Curtis would also be discussing his research "into the potential for the
sovereignty movement to present a homegrown threat in Hawaii."
In introducing his subject Sunday, Curtis said that leading up to Sept. 11, 2001,
his focus of study had been on the psychology and sociology of
disasters.
Following the attacks on the World Trade Center, however, Curtis said he decided to dedicate himself to the study of terrorism and "what
causes people to do such terrible things," he said.
Since that time, he has tracked more than 150 U.S. citizens who have been indicted or convicted of
radical Islamist activities and studied their backgrounds to try and determine
when and how they came to the conclusion to resort to violence.
In his discussion, Curtis gave several well-known examples of homegrown terrorists and
presented their paths to terrorism. Common among almost all of the examples was
a sudden conversion to Islam, followed by increasing
radicalization.
Curtis opened the floor to questions after making no mention of the sovereignty movement, and it soon became apparent that many
people in the audience had come to debate him about the issue.
In a booming voice, one man rose and said that Curtis hadn't addressed "the real
terrorists."
"The idea is you need to keep the Hawaiian pagan ignorant and stupid," he shouted. "You need to be correct. ... You didn't mention George
Bush, Rumsfeld or Dick Cheney. They the real terrorists."
Another man accused Curtis of practicing the "politics of fear."
Moanikeala Akaka, a former Office of Hawaiian Affairs trustee and longtime supporter of Hawaiian
rights, said Curtis should be ashamed of himself.
"You, sir, are a provocateur looking for money to discredit us. Our policy was one of peace. It
was not us who brought the navy ships. ... We are a people of peace.
"You are trying to compare us with the terrorists, and I am highly offended," she
added. "I have read your report. It is shoddy scholarship."
A man with a name tag that said "Skippy" and a T-shirt with the message "Don't Trust Whitey"
walked out of the room saying to the crowd, "I thought we were here to speak
truth!"
Curtis appeared surprised and frustrated with the audience's reaction, eventually relinquishing the floor after several
interruptions.
After the meeting concluded, audience members said they had been angered by the newspaper article's description of Curtis' areas of
study, and specifically were offended by a perceived implication that members of
the Hawaiian sovereignty movement were similar to radical Islamic
terrorists.
For his part, Curtis said he had been surprised by the audience's reaction, as well as the article about his appearance.
"I hadn't intended to discuss Hawaiian sovereignty," he said.
Curtis said that he had, indeed, been involved with a student-led and -designed study about
the possibility of violence in connection with the sovereignty movement, but he
maintains that the results of the study showed rather decisively that a vast
majority of interviewees did not feel violence was a viable
solution.
After Sunday's meeting, Curtis said he did not plan on speaking in the future about the study in public.
"I'll talk about it with colleagues and students, and I'll still pursue it in my studies, but I won't be
able to talk about it in public. It's just too personal, too emotional for
people," he said.
E-mail Colin M. Stewart at cstewart@hawaiitribune-herald.com.
University of Hawaii at Hilo Sociology Department chairman and professor Thom Curtis gave a
Powerpoint presentation Sunday afternoon at Naniloa Volcanoes Resort in which he
discussed his studies of homegrown Islamic terrorism.
In a release provided to the Tribune-Herald and printed in the Thursday edition of the
newspaper, Conservative Forum President Walter Moe was quoted as saying that
Curtis would also be discussing his research "into the potential for the
sovereignty movement to present a homegrown threat in Hawaii."
In introducing his subject Sunday, Curtis said that leading up to Sept. 11, 2001,
his focus of study had been on the psychology and sociology of
disasters.
Following the attacks on the World Trade Center, however, Curtis said he decided to dedicate himself to the study of terrorism and "what
causes people to do such terrible things," he said.
Since that time, he has tracked more than 150 U.S. citizens who have been indicted or convicted of
radical Islamist activities and studied their backgrounds to try and determine
when and how they came to the conclusion to resort to violence.
In his discussion, Curtis gave several well-known examples of homegrown terrorists and
presented their paths to terrorism. Common among almost all of the examples was
a sudden conversion to Islam, followed by increasing
radicalization.
Curtis opened the floor to questions after making no mention of the sovereignty movement, and it soon became apparent that many
people in the audience had come to debate him about the issue.
In a booming voice, one man rose and said that Curtis hadn't addressed "the real
terrorists."
"The idea is you need to keep the Hawaiian pagan ignorant and stupid," he shouted. "You need to be correct. ... You didn't mention George
Bush, Rumsfeld or Dick Cheney. They the real terrorists."
Another man accused Curtis of practicing the "politics of fear."
Moanikeala Akaka, a former Office of Hawaiian Affairs trustee and longtime supporter of Hawaiian
rights, said Curtis should be ashamed of himself.
"You, sir, are a provocateur looking for money to discredit us. Our policy was one of peace. It
was not us who brought the navy ships. ... We are a people of peace.
"You are trying to compare us with the terrorists, and I am highly offended," she
added. "I have read your report. It is shoddy scholarship."
A man with a name tag that said "Skippy" and a T-shirt with the message "Don't Trust Whitey"
walked out of the room saying to the crowd, "I thought we were here to speak
truth!"
Curtis appeared surprised and frustrated with the audience's reaction, eventually relinquishing the floor after several
interruptions.
After the meeting concluded, audience members said they had been angered by the newspaper article's description of Curtis' areas of
study, and specifically were offended by a perceived implication that members of
the Hawaiian sovereignty movement were similar to radical Islamic
terrorists.
For his part, Curtis said he had been surprised by the audience's reaction, as well as the article about his appearance.
"I hadn't intended to discuss Hawaiian sovereignty," he said.
Curtis said that he had, indeed, been involved with a student-led and -designed study about
the possibility of violence in connection with the sovereignty movement, but he
maintains that the results of the study showed rather decisively that a vast
majority of interviewees did not feel violence was a viable
solution.
After Sunday's meeting, Curtis said he did not plan on speaking in the future about the study in public.
"I'll talk about it with colleagues and students, and I'll still pursue it in my studies, but I won't be
able to talk about it in public. It's just too personal, too emotional for
people," he said.
E-mail Colin M. Stewart at cstewart@hawaiitribune-herald.com.
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Suspect killed by police in standoff had Hawaii ties
By Sarah Brumfield / Associated Press
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Sep 02, 2010
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SILVER SPRING, Md. » A man who railed against the Discovery Channel's environmental programming for years burst into the company's headquarters with at least one explosive device strapped to his body yesterday and took three people hostage at gunpoint before police shot him to death, officials said.
The hostages -- two Discovery Communications employees and a security guard -- were unhurt after the four-hour standoff. Montgomery County Police Chief Thomas Manger said tactical officers moved in after officers monitoring the gunman on building security cameras saw him pull out a handgun and point it at a hostage.
An explosive device on the gunman's body detonated when police shot him, Manger said. Police were trying to determine whether two boxes and two backpacks the gunman had also contained explosives.
A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing said authorities had identified James J. Lee as the likely suspect.
Lee listed Hawaii as his hometown on his MySpace page.
Property records show Lee was given ownership of a 12.5 percent stake in a Lahaina residence in 2003 through a family trust, and that he sold his interest in 2007 for $90,000.
It was not immediately determined what period he lived in Hawaii or when he moved to the mainland.
On his MySpace page, Lee said he is single, 43, and lives in Silver Spring, Md.
County police and firefighters last night looked at a laptop screen that showed an image of a body lying face up, surrounded by blood. Authorities also sent in a robot to disarm the explosive on the gunman's body. Police Capt. Paul Starks said the suspect had fired a gun at least once. He also said police think the suspect was acting alone but are investigating all possibilities.
Manger said police spent several hours negotiating with the armed man after he entered the suburban Washington building about 1 p.m. None of the 1,900 people who work in the building were hurt, and most made it out before the standoff ended.
Lee was convicted of disorderly conduct for a protest he organized outside Discovery's offices in February 2008. According to court records, he paid homeless people to carry signs and set off a scramble when he threw fistfuls of cash into the air, calling it "just trash."
Lee served two weeks in jail after his arrest, during which doctors evaluated his competency to stand trial. County State's Attorney John McCarthy said Lee was ordered to stay 500 feet away from Discovery headquarters as part of his probation, which ended two weeks ago. A magistrate ordered a doctor's evaluation, but the result was not immediately available yesterday.
"The Discovery Channel produces many so-called 'Environmental Programs' supposedly there to save the planet," Lee said in an ad he took out in a Washington newspaper to promote the protest. "But the truth is things are getting WORSE! Their programs are causing more harm than good."
In court and online, Lee faulted the Discovery Channel for shows as varied as "Future Weapons," "It Takes a Thief" and "Planet Green."
A lengthy posting that could be seen yesterday on a website registered to Lee said Discovery and its affiliates should stop "encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants," a possible reference to shows like "Kate Plus 8" and "19 Kids and Counting." Instead, he said, the network should air "programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility."
Discovery Communications Inc. operates U.S. cable and satellite networks including the Discovery Channel, TLC and Animal Planet.
Star-Advertiser staff contributed to this report.
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James J. Lee, shown during a 2008 protest outside the Discovery Channel headquarters in Silver Spring, Md., was shot dead by police yesterday after he took three employees hostage at the company.
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A police officer cleared the area surrounding the Discovery Channel building. Lee listed his home state as Hawaii.
The MySpace page created by James J. Lee, identified as the gunman killed yesterday after a hostage standoff at the Discovery Channel headquarters in Silver Spring, Md., describes Lee's environmental concerns.
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SILVER SPRING, Md. » A man who railed against the Discovery Channel's environmental programming for years burst into the company's headquarters with at least one explosive device strapped to his body yesterday and took three people hostage at gunpoint before police shot him to death, officials said.
The hostages -- two Discovery Communications employees and a security guard -- were unhurt after the four-hour standoff. Montgomery County Police Chief Thomas Manger said tactical officers moved in after officers monitoring the gunman on building security cameras saw him pull out a handgun and point it at a hostage.
An explosive device on the gunman's body detonated when police shot him, Manger said. Police were trying to determine whether two boxes and two backpacks the gunman had also contained explosives.
A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing said authorities had identified James J. Lee as the likely suspect.
Lee listed Hawaii as his hometown on his MySpace page.
Property records show Lee was given ownership of a 12.5 percent stake in a Lahaina residence in 2003 through a family trust, and that he sold his interest in 2007 for $90,000.
It was not immediately determined what period he lived in Hawaii or when he moved to the mainland.
On his MySpace page, Lee said he is single, 43, and lives in Silver Spring, Md.
County police and firefighters last night looked at a laptop screen that showed an image of a body lying face up, surrounded by blood. Authorities also sent in a robot to disarm the explosive on the gunman's body. Police Capt. Paul Starks said the suspect had fired a gun at least once. He also said police think the suspect was acting alone but are investigating all possibilities.
Manger said police spent several hours negotiating with the armed man after he entered the suburban Washington building about 1 p.m. None of the 1,900 people who work in the building were hurt, and most made it out before the standoff ended.
Lee was convicted of disorderly conduct for a protest he organized outside Discovery's offices in February 2008. According to court records, he paid homeless people to carry signs and set off a scramble when he threw fistfuls of cash into the air, calling it "just trash."
Lee served two weeks in jail after his arrest, during which doctors evaluated his competency to stand trial. County State's Attorney John McCarthy said Lee was ordered to stay 500 feet away from Discovery headquarters as part of his probation, which ended two weeks ago. A magistrate ordered a doctor's evaluation, but the result was not immediately available yesterday.
"The Discovery Channel produces many so-called 'Environmental Programs' supposedly there to save the planet," Lee said in an ad he took out in a Washington newspaper to promote the protest. "But the truth is things are getting WORSE! Their programs are causing more harm than good."
In court and online, Lee faulted the Discovery Channel for shows as varied as "Future Weapons," "It Takes a Thief" and "Planet Green."
A lengthy posting that could be seen yesterday on a website registered to Lee said Discovery and its affiliates should stop "encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants," a possible reference to shows like "Kate Plus 8" and "19 Kids and Counting." Instead, he said, the network should air "programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility."
Discovery Communications Inc. operates U.S. cable and satellite networks including the Discovery Channel, TLC and Animal Planet.
Star-Advertiser staff contributed to this report
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I am still riding 'hih' on Kolohe Kai they were so fantastic at the Aloha Tower. Unbeliveable performance, it makes it all worth the investment of time, energy and money we don't have spent on Maoliworld.
I know when my time is up the future generation will do us better as far as taking care of themselves and the mother earth in their universe free of negative stuff.
Mahalo
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Olodum is an internationally acclaimed Afro-Brazilian cultural group from Bahia, Brazil. Olodum (pronounced oh-lo-doon) was founded in 1979 as a bloco afro (African Bloc), a Bahian Carnival association highlighting African heritage and black pride through music, dance theater, and art. From their home city of Salvador da Bahia in Northeast Brazil (often described as the most African city in the Americas), Olodum has dedicated itself to cultural activism in the struggle against racial discrimination and socioeconomic inequality.
Olodum takes its name from the Yoruba deity Olodumaré. They focus their yearly Carnival themes on controversial issues such as black power and socialist movements in Africa and the African Diaspora. In the mid 1980s, the head drummer in the group - Mestre Neguinho do Samba - experimented with Afro-Caribbean rhythms and mixed them with the Brazilian samba. He divided the large surdo bass drums into four interlocking parts and layered the high-pitched repique drums in additive rhythms on top. The result was a new style of music dubbed samba reggae that quickly dominated Bahian Carnival. In the late 1980s Olodum assumed premiere position among the blocos afro in Bahia and became internationally known. They formed a professional musical band Banda Olodum which has now recorded over ten CDs. Olodum musicians have worked with international luminaries such as Michael Jackson, Paul Simon, and Spike Lee.
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I'm going to replay!!!
My grandparents took on the opposite side of capitalism and how they managed is beyond my comprehension. They perfected 'Gospel Salvation' a thought of idea by Samuel Mills the Haystack Committe.
So true, the Federal Reserve thrives and we need to know that we are smarter than the capitalistic Chipper Roo.
We care about each other and will thrive beyond their not caring about the young, earth and our universe. Exploitation of the earth's minerals to produce dangerous weapns and to sue on the unborn children is cowardice.
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Not to romanticised this, but curious what is this? I love the music Much Mahalo
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