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More Evidence of Recognition of the Hawaiian Government Documented by the United States; Evidence of State Secrets, etc.

Posted by Amelia Gora on August 29, 2013 at 9:43pm in Politics

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The following articles support the Hawaiian Government:

Glasgow weekly times. (Glasgow, Mo.) 1848-1861, December 11, 1851, Image 2

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The sun. (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, February 12, 1893, Page 3, Image 3

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  • Amelia Gora October 13, 2013 at 2:48pm

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    Melissa Moniz
    5 hours ago via mobile · 
    • This is interesting and worth reading. What if we are not federally recognized? What if we are just State recognized ?
      After all the State of Hawaii recognizes:
      "SECTION 2. The Hawai‘i Revised Statutes is amended by adding a new chapter to be appropriately designated and to read as follows:
      CHAPTER NATIVE HAWAIIAN RECOGNITION
      Statement of recognition. The Native Hawaiian people are hereby recognized as the only indigenous, aboriginal, maoli people of Hawai‘i.

      Purpose. The purpose of this chapter is to provide for and to implement the recognition of the Native Hawaiian people by means and methods that will facilitate their self-governance, including the establishment of, or the amendment to, programs, entities, and other matters pursuant to law that relate, or affect ownership, possession, or use of lands by the Native Hawaiian people, and by further promoting their culture, heritage, entitlements, health, education, and welfare."

      That is unless they play "INDIAN GIVER" and repeal Act 195 and they do not recognize us.
      ......................

      Here's a link to an interesting site that could give us a sneak peek
      of how things can play out:

      http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research.aspx?tabs=951%2C70%2C385#385

      This is a sample from the FAQ's:

      What is a state-recognized Indian Tribe?
      State recognized tribes are tribes recognized by individual states,
      usually through the state legislature or by a state commission or
      similar organization. Some state-recognized tribes are also federally
      recognized. State-recognized tribes are eligible for substantially
      fewer benefits than federally recognized ones. The main reason tribes
      petition for state recognition is to have their existence acknowledged
      and to continue a government-to-government relationship with the
      state.

      What is the role of the state government regarding American Indian tribes?
      State governments have no authority over Indian tribes, unless
      officially authorized by the U.S. Congress. Tribal governments are not
      subservient to state governments and retain the right to create laws
      that are stricter or more lenient than state laws. In general, states
      may regulate only on matters that are exclusive to non-Indians and
      that do not affect tribal interests. For decades, however, tribal and
      state governments have found ways to cooperate on a broad range of
      regulatory matters--often in the form of intergovernmental agreements.

      Currently the State-Tribal Institute tracks a variety of policy issues
      affecting state-tribal relations including economic development,
      environmental protection, human services, taxation, jurisdiction and
      law enforcement and trust land issues. There are 566 federally
      recognized tribes within the United States. Although a significant
      number reside in Alaska (229), the remaining tribes are located within
      the boundaries of 33 states. In addition, there are numerous bills
      that are considered by state legislatures each year that can affect
      tribal governments. Communication between the states and tribes is
      important so that state policymakers understand the impact legislation
      can have on their American Indian, Alaska Native and Native Hawaiian
      constituents.

      For more information on state-tribal legislation, see
      NCSL's legislation database.
      Issues & Research
      www.ncsl.org
      The State-Tribal Institute was established in 2006 and is part of the Member Outreach Division within NCSL. The Institute strives to improve upon and facilitate more effective state-tribal cooperation and the government-to-government and leader-to-leader relationships. The Institute also conducts tr...
  • Amelia Gora August 31, 2013 at 12:47am

    Note...............see http://maoliworld.ning.com/forum/topics/the-view-of-the-barbaric-na... a thread which overlaps/affects this thread as well.

    Both of the threads support why Obama cannot do the following:

    Fw: Fwd: Hawaiians DONʻT WANT IT: PETITION to Not Bypass Congress by Signing an Executive Order for Federal Recognition of Native Hawaiians

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    pilipo
    Aug 28 (3 days ago)
    to Joan
    Aloha kakou he Hawaii au,
     
    Mahalo piha Joan and Elaine!
     
    We must do something! We can not sit on the side of the road and let the Traffic of Tyranny just continue to pass through without opposition.
     
    Had we, just as Hawaiiian Nationals stand in the year of 2000 stand together against the U. S. Congressional threat revised the Ku'e Petition of 1897, there would be be no Avecromie or Kanaiolowalu threat of today! We were not prepared then and we are still not prepared now. In fact, back then most were to busy looking for Royalty?                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
     
    REMEMBER ONE THING; KANAIOLOWALU TO THE HAWAIIIAN NATIONAL IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE U. S. 14TH AMENDMENT OF 1866 U. S. CONSTITUTION DID TO THE AMERICAN NATIONALS WHICH CREATED TITLES OF NOBILITY LATER DISGUISED UNDER THE UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE (UCC) BECAME NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS OF U. S. PROPERTY!   
     
    Whether you are a Hawaiian or American National, ask yourself why is Government anywhere able to do do what they want to do? It is is only because your "Inalienable Right" has been legally null and void by YOU!
                                                                                       
    Please sign on or remain on the road side waiting for a bone!
     
    Kaulana Na Pua,
     
    malama ke kino,
     
    pilipo
    Hawaiiian National (1936)  
    From: nunyabus Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:05 PM
    Subject: Fwd: Hawaiians DONʻT WANT IT: PETITION to Not Bypass Congress by Signing an Executive Order for Federal Recognition of Native Hawaiians


    Aloha,
    I was referred to you by Joan Conrow who suggested you folks may be able to help us (Kekane Pa, Bill Brown, Maria Taylor and others) accumulate names for this Petition we created last night. If you have large  mailing lists that would be the edge we could use at this time.
    We have less than 30 days to get 100,000 signatures. Yikes. Nothingʻs easy.
    Mahalo for anything you may be able to do.
    Elaine





    Aloha,


    Hawaiian and non-Hawaiian supporters of Hawaiian Independence.


     


    • The signing of an Executive Order by President Obama to apply Federal Recognition in Hawaii is imminent.


     


    • We will put our voices on the record to counter the unlawful and aggressive actions of OHA, Kana’iolowalu Commission and Danner participants on a PETITION through the White House website.


     


    • Donʻt worry if your name is on Kau Inoa or Kana’iolowalu because it was done under deception and you can still sign this PETITION.


     


    • To sign the PETITION you will be prompted to create a user name/account to log in. This only takes a couple minutes but it is worth it.


     


    • We need to reach 100,000 signatures within 30 days. So we have to move fast.

    • We are hoping with your help this petition will go viral. We can do this.


    PLEASE, SHARE THIS AND PASS IT ON TO FAMILY, FRIENDS AND SUPPORTERS LIVING HERE OR IN THE STATES.


    Go to Petition Site here:

    http://wh.gov/lghEi


    Here's some more information about this petition:
    WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO...

    Not Bypass Congress by Signing an Executive Order for Federal Recognition of Native Hawaiian.
    The Kana’iolowalu Roll Commission thwarts the legal context and spirit of self-determination. We are not tribal, nor of tribes. Attempting to transform our Hawaiian identity is an unconstitutional, race-based action; a clear breach and violation of our perfect right denying our due process under law. We, the Kanaka Maoli, have been misrepresented through materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statements implemented through the use of false writings/documents. We oppose federal recognition of our people and reject Kana’iolowalu. We ask that you respect the U.S. Constitution and comply with international laws, Laws of Nations and the U.N. Declaration you signed in 2010 based on the right to self-determination and self-governance.
  • Amelia Gora August 31, 2013 at 12:31am


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     Permalink Reply by Amelia Gora  yesterday

       

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=GsBKFAdo-ig&am...

    Summary

    The contract/Perpetual Treaty was signed in 1849 with the above U.S. Constitution and Amendments intact.

    This means that the contract/Perpetual Treaty is locked in time and the U.S. Constitution and Amendments recorded during the time period affects the Perpetual Treaty of the period.

    This means that the U.S. Constitution and Amendments remain unchanged to this day because Treaty(ies) supersede State Laws, etc.

    This means that all the Presidential Executive Orders which changes the U.S. Constitution cannot change what was since 1849.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.........but Americans can charge those who change the U.S. Constitution as treasonous, etc.

    aloha.

       

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQP563gKwIU

    note:  

    In 1852, Kauikeouli/Kamehameha III passed the anti-slavery law and 13 years later, the U.S. passed their anti-slavery following the Hawaiian Law with nearly every word in the law worded the same.

    Yes, the Hawaiian Kingdom was more progressive than the U.S./United States of America.

     Permalink Reply by Amelia Gora  yesterday

    Facebook post:

    Amelia Gora
    The Hawaiian Kingdom Treaty, a Perpetual Treaty, may just be what can save Americans in this day and age.....read on.....aloha.
     
    Scrutinizing the PERPETUAL TREATY(IES) With the U.S./United States of America And Their Constitution
    maoliworld.com
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gqexDy2UHg As a result of the recognition of Hawaiian independence since 1842 the Hawaiian Kingdom entered into treaties w"
     
     Permalink Reply by Amelia Gora  20 hours ago

    Hint:

    Let's focus on PART VI no. 2 - ABOUT TREATY(IES):

     Permalink Reply by Amelia Gora  19 hours ago

    "2.  This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in  every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

    Note:   

    "all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land"......and the "Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

    notwithstanding - 

    1. notwithstanding legal definition of notwithstanding. notwithstanding ... 
      legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/notwithstanding
      notwithstanding preposition all the same, despite, even, however, in any case, in any event, in spite of, nevertheless, none the less, still, yet ...
    2. Notwithstanding Definition 
      www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/N/Notwithstanding.aspx
      The legal definition of Notwithstanding is In spite of, even if, without regard to or impediment by other things.


    "3.  The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

    Note:  

    "The Senators and Representatives" or Congress, and each member/"Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution;"

     

    Note:  How many States were part of the Union in 1849?

     

    1. How many states were part of the US in 1849 
      wiki.answers.com "- ... "- History, Politics & Society "- History "- US History
      How many states were part of the US in 1934? 48. How many states are a part of the contigous US? There are 48 states in the contiguous USA. Alaska to the ...
    2. How many states were there in 1849 
      wiki.answers.com "- ... "- History, Politics & Society "- History "- US History
      How many slave states were there in the 1849? 15 free states. How many stateswhere there in 1849? 30. How many states were part of the US in 1849?
    3. How many free and slave states where there in 1849 
      wiki.answers.com "- ... "- History "- War and Military History "- US Civil War
      How many slave states were there in the 1849? 15 free states Read More. How many free and slave states were there? 15 slave states and 19 free states during ...
    4. How many slave states were there in the 1849 
      wiki.answers.com "- Wiki Answers "- Categories "- Uncategorized
      How many slave states were there in the 1849? In: Uncategorized [Edit categories]. Answer: 15 free states. First answer by Contributor. Last edit by Contributor.
    5. History of the United States (1849--1865) - Wikipedia, the free ... 
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_(1849--1865)
      History of the United States (1849--1865) .... Many, if not most, of the factory workers and miners were recent immigrants from Europe, or their children.
       
       
      How many free and slave states where there in 1849?
      Relevant answers:
      •  How many slave states were there in the 1849?

        15 free states

      •  How many free and slave states were there?

        15 slave states and 19 free states during the American Civil War

      •  How many free and slave states where there in 1850?

        There are 20 free states and 15 slave states in 1850.

      •  How many states were free states?
      •  How many states were free and how many slave in 1820?

        12

         

        Reference:  http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_free_and_slave_states_where_ther...

         

        Best Answer
        there were 30 states in the usa in 1849
        • How many slave states were there in the 1849?

          15 free states

        • How many states where there in1849?

          30.

        • How many states were part of the US in 1849?

          There were 30 states in 1849

        • How many states where originalstates?

          13, the colonies

           

          Reference:  http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_states_were_there_in_1849

           

          NOTE:  

          There were only 30 States in the United States in 1849.

          and Which States were they?

           

          Statehood Dates 
          www.50 states.com/statehood.htm
          Directory of dates that states were admitted into the union of the United States of America. ... 20, 1849, and then a local civil government. ... 19 th, There was a residue of Indiana Territory that continued to exist under that name until Dec. ... had been in the territory, was commonly known as the "Missouri Country" until May 30, ...
           
          Note:
           
          Only the following 30 States are LOCKED INTO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION OF THIS PERIOD:
           
           
          STATE
          NAME
          STATEHOOD
          DATE/ORDER
          PRE-STATEHOOD
          NOTES
          Delaware Dec. 7, 1787
          1 st The first of the original 13 colonies. Pennsylvania Dec. 12, 1787
          2 nd The second of the original 13 colonies. New Jersey Dec. 18, 1787
          3 rd The third of the original 13 colonies. Georgia Jan. 2, 1788
          4 th The fourth of the original 13 colonies Connecticut Jan. 9, 1788
          5 th The fifth of the original 13 colonies. Massachusetts Feb. 6, 1788
          6 th The sixth of the original 13 colonies Maryland April 28, 1788
          7 th The seventh of the original 13 colonies. South Carolina May 23, 1788
          8 th The eighth of the original 13 colonies. New Hampshire June 21, 1788
          9 th The ninth of the original 13 colonies Virginia June 25, 1788
          10 th The 10th of the original 13 colonies. New York July 26, 1788
          11 th The 11th of the original 13 colonies. North Carolina Nov. 21, 1789
          12 th The 12th of the original 13 colonies. Rhode Island May 29, 1790
          13 th The 13th of the original 13 colonies. Vermont March 4, 1791
          14 th Until statehood, had been a region claimed by both New York and New Hampshire Kentucky June 1, 1792
          15 th Never a territory, it was part of Virginia until statehood.Tennessee June 1, 1796
          16 th Was Southwest Territory before statehood. Ohio March 1, 1803
          17 th Was part of the Northwest Territory until statehood. LouisianaApril 30, 1812
          18 th With certain boundary changes, had been the Territory of Orleans. Indiana Dec. 11, 1816
          19 th There was a residue of Indiana Territory that continued to exist under that name until Dec. 3, 1818, when it was attached to Michigan Territory. Mississippi Dec. 10, 1817
          20 th Territory by Act of April 7, 1798, effective May 7, 1798. IllinoisDec. 3, 1818
          21 st . Alabama Dec. 14, 1819
          22 nd Territory by Act of March 3, 1817, effective Aug. 15, 1817.Maine March 15, 1820
          23 rd What is now the state of Maine was, before statehood, called the District of Maine and belonged to Massachusetts. Missouri Aug. 10, 1821
          24 th The state was much smaller than the territory. The area to the west and northwest of the state, which had been in the territory, was commonly known as the "Missouri Country" until May 30, 1854, and certain of the post offices in this area show a Missouri abbreviation in the postmark. Arkansas June 15, 1836
          25 th The territory was larger than the state. After statehood the leftover area to the west had post offices that continued for some years to use an Arkansas abbreviation in the postmarks, although they were really in the "Indian Country." Michigan Jan. 26., 1837
          26 th . Florida March 3, 1845
          27 th . Texas Dec. 29, 1845
          28 th Was an independent republic before statehood. Iowa Dec. 28, 1846
          29 th . Wisconsin May 29, 1848
          30 th The state is smaller than the territory and the leftover area continued to be called the Territory of Wisconsin until March 3, 1849.  

          Reference:  http://www.50states.com/statehood.htm?sort_by_date#.UEiJkcFlSXs

          IMPORTANT  NOTE:  These 30 States Represent the MAJORITY OVER the 49 States Existing Today.

          THESE 30 States are BOUND BY THE U.S. CONSTITUTION Which Affects the Treaties.

          THESE 30 States are the MAJORITY of the Present 49 States and there is NO VOTING ON THE MATTERS.

          aloha.

          p.s.  The other 19 (20 if you count the dubious "Hawaii") that has NO SAY to the U.S. CONSTITUTION of the Period and the Treaties are:

          California Sept. 9, 1850
          31 st Ceded by Mexico by the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, concluded Feb. 2, 1848, and proclaimed July 4, 1848. From then until statehood, California had a military government until Dec. 20, 1849, and then a local civil government. It never had a territorial form of government.Minnesota May 11, 1858
          32 nd . Oregon Feb. 14, 1859
          33 rd . Kansas Jan. 29, 1861
          34 th . West Virginia June 20, 1863
          35 th Was part of Virginia until statehood. Nevada Oct. 31, 1864
          36 th . Nebraska March 1, 1867
          37 th . Colorado Aug. 1, 1876
          38 th . North Dakota Nov. 2, 1889
          39 th or 40 th Was part of Dakota Territory before statehood. Admitted on same day as South Dakota South Dakota Nov. 2, 1889
          39 th or 40 th Was part of Dakota Territory before statehood. Admitted on same day as North Dakota Montana Nov. 8, 1889
          41 st . Washington Nov. 11, 1889
          42 nd . Idaho July 3, 1890
          43 rd . Wyoming July 10, 1890
          44 th . Utah Jan. 4, 1896
          45 th . Oklahoma Nov. 16, 1907
          46 th The state was formed from Oklahoma Territory and Indian Territory. New Mexico Jan. 6, 1912
          47th . Arizona Feb. 14, 1912
          48 th This region was sometimes called Arizona before 1863, although it was still in the Territory of New Mexico. Alaska Jan. 3, 1959
          49 th A district from Oct. 18, 1867, until it became an organized territory Aug. 24, 1912. Hawaii Aug. 21, 1959
          50 th The territorial date Aug. 12, 1898 is that of the formal transfer to the United States, with Sanford B. Dole as first Governor.

           

         

         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCwOdjympZo

         

        Watch for posts which shows that a Republic of Hawaii was made a State, and NOT the Hawaiian Kingdom............aloha.

     

     Permalink Reply by Amelia Gora  18 hours ago

    oh btw...............Is Washington, D.C. a State?

    1. Washington, D.C. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Washington,_D.C.
      Washington, D.C., formally the District of Columbia and commonly referred to as Washington, "the District", or simply D.C., is the capital of the United States.
      History of Washington, DC      Geography of Washington, DC      Downtown    Kent 
    2. Fast Facts - Washington, DC 
      washington.org/visiting/experience-dc

     

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  • Amelia Gora August 29, 2013 at 10:47pm

    The News-Herald. (Hillsboro, Highland Co., Ohio) 1886-1973, May 18, 1893, Page 7, Image 7

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    President Harrison wanted a Reciprocity Treaty with Canada AND THE WHOLE WORLD.....following after Hawaii's Treaty made 15 years before or 1876 - a Fraudulent setup which even King Kalakaua declared:

    St. Paul daily globe. (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, January 15, 1891, Page 3, Image 3

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m5GdzfiiOU  Hoist the Colours .....

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