I know we have been here before, Columbus Day. I think this is an opportunity
to
educate people to the Annual Lie we celebrate called in the name of
this
supposedly hero, who found America ... pardon me while I chuckle to
myself. I
think it's such a obscene gesture. Would anybody celebrate Hitler?
Tell the
truth, learn the truth, get a better understanding of the indigenous
peoples
of this place called "Turtle Island "
So as all this will take is for you to pass this on to all the folks you
know.
Below is a piece of graphic art that may enlighten these folks a little
and
with some humor and history and culture of the People of Turtle
Island.
The Roman Empire was one of the largest and most enduring in world
history.
The saying "All Roads Lead to Rome" alludes to this central hub of
technology, literature, culture and architecture in the ancient world.
The engineers of the Roman age created an unparalleled network of roads
in ancient history.
Approximately 50,000 miles (80,000 km) of roads spread Roman
civilization, influence and the mighty legions throughout the western
world. They built strong arched bridges, and mastered the concept of
"running water" using aqueducts that, among other things, supplied
public baths rivaling today's modern water facilities.
At the height of its power in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD, the Roman
Empire consisted of some 2.2 million square miles (5.7 million sq. km).
60 million people (or as much as 1/5 of the world's population) claimed
citizenship of Rome and as many as 120 million people may have lived
within its borders.
# Roman History
# Index of Roman History
# Founding of Rome
# Kings of Rome
# Birth of Republic
# Conquest of Italy
# Punic Wars
# Late Republic
# Fall of Republic
# Early Empire
# Five Good Emperors
Virgil was a poet who lived during the civil wars in Rome and then in
the time of the Roman Emperor Augustus, just before the birth of Jesus
Christ. Virgil (VER-jill) was a friend of Maecenas (my-SEEN-ass), who
was a friend of Augustus, and the poetry Virgil wrote was meant to
support the government. He wrote a bunch of poems, called the Georgics,
which are about how wonderful Italy is, and how nice it is to have peace
(thanks to Augustus), and how good it is to live a simple, traditional
life.
But the work Virgil is most remembered for is the epic poem called the
Aeneid. This is a long poem in twelve books, like the Iliad or the
Odyssey. The hero is Aeneas (i-KNEE-ass), who was a Trojan who was
supposed to have escaped from Troy when the Greeks captured it during
the Trojan War. It is the story of how Aeneas and his men (like Odysseus
and his men) travelled from Troy to Italy to found the city of Rome.
This makes the Trojans the ancestors of the Romans.
Virgil was not happy with the Aeneid. It was not published while he was
alive, and when he died in 19 BC he left instructions that it should be
destroyed. But his heirs published it anyway.
In solidarity with indigenous peoples around the world, please join
us for the annual Indigenous Peoples' Day, Papal Bulls Burning ceremony
in Honolulu on Monday, October 11, 5:00 pm, in front of the Roman
Catholic
Diocese of Honolulu, 1184 Bishop St. (at the top of Fort Street Mall).
Indigenous peoples and supporters elsewhere are encouraged to organize
a small ceremonial event and symbolically burn or tear-up copies of the
May 4, 1493 papal bull "Inter Caetera" in demonstration against
"Columbus
Day," or "Discoverer's Day" as it's known of here in Hawai'i. The
document
can be downloaded from our website at:
*Students are especially encouraged to attend in order to put theory
into
a little practice by linking the papal bulls issue with other important
indigenous rights' and global issues we've been diligently covering in
class.
Sponsoring organizations include: Kosmos Indigena, Ka Pakaukau,
Department
of Ethnic Studies (UH Manoa), Ahupua'a Action Alliance, Hawai'i
Institute
for Human Rights, and the Kanaka Maoli Tribunal Komike. For more
information, email: castanha@hawaii.edu, or phone (808) 737-6097.
*Indigenous peoples and supporters seek the formal revocation of the
1493 papal bull "Inter Caetera." This decree was issued by the Vatican
to Christopher Columbus on his second voyage to the Caribbean. Along
with the 1494 Treaty of Tordesillas, it sought to establish Christian
dominion over the globe and called for the subjugation of non-Christian
peoples and seizure of their lands. As a result, an estimated 100
million
indigenous peoples were killed off in the process of Europe's
colonization
of the indigenous world. This papal edict has never been repealed and is
the foundation-stone of the international system we live under today and
directly related to the corporate-state-military plunder and rape of the
planet, which is sometimes linked to the phenomenon known as
"globalization."
Aloha a hui hou.
In spirit,
Tony Castana (Carib/Boricua)
Coordinator
Kosmos Indigena
.
Paul Martin
Student Assistant
-----------------------------
Ethnic Studies Department
2560 Campus Road, George 301
Honolulu, HI 96822
(808) 956-8086
*********************************
Note: the term "indigenous" should not be used for our
people............for we are kanaka maoli/ aboriginal Hawaiians as
documented by Queen Liliuokalani.
"indigenous" means people who own nothing, have nothing, and are nothing
- equal or less than slaves.....this was documented by K. Choy who did
talk with the United Nations representative who had a meeting on the Big
Island.
Recently, the United Nations has moved to extinguish all "indigenous"
peoples claims......another overthrow? see the meetings scheduled on the
Island of Maui with the United Nations representatives.
Please refrain from continuing the use of "indigenous" when it comes to
our people...........besides, President Grover Cleveland did return
Hawaii to Queen Liliuokalani in 1895 and the abundant amount of
criminals, deviants, PIRATES are perpetuating lies to our people.
3) 1822 Secret Treaty of Verona signed by Austria; France; Prussia;
Russia; Vatican (complemented for maintaining obedience amongst the
people; U.S.; and England.
Title: Manifest Destiny
Author: John O'Sullivan
Year Published: 1839
John L. O'Sullivan on Manifest Destiny, 1839
The American people having derived their origin from many other nations,
and the Declaration of National Independence being entirely based on
the great principle of human equality, these facts demonstrate at once
our disconnected position as regards any other nation; that we have, in
reality, but little connection with the past history of any of them, and
still less with all antiquity, its glories, or its crimes. On the
contrary, our national birth was the beginning of a new history, the
formation and progress of an untried political system, which separates
us from the past and connects us with the future only; and so far as
regards the entire development of the natural rights of man, in moral,
political, and national life, we may confidently assume that our country
is destined to be the great nation of futurity.
It is so destined, because the principle upon which a nation is
organized fixes its destiny, and that of equality is perfect, is
universal. It presides in all the operations of the physical world, and
it is also the conscious law of the soul -- the self-evident dictates of
morality, which accurately defines the duty of man to man, and
consequently man's rights as man. Besides, the truthful annals of any
nation furnish abundant evidence, that its happiness, its greatness, its
duration, were always proportionate to the democratic equality in its
system of government. . . .
What friend of human liberty, civilization, and refinement, can cast his
view over the past history of the monarchies and aristocracies of
antiquity, and not deplore that they ever existed? What philanthropist
can contemplate the oppressions, the cruelties, and injustice inflicted
by them on the masses of mankind, and not turn with moral horror from
the retrospect?
America is destined for better deeds. It is our unparalleled glory that
we have no reminiscences of battle fields, but in defence of humanity,
of the oppressed of all nations, of the rights of conscience, the rights
of personal enfranchisement. Our annals describe no scenes of horrid
carnage, where men were led on by hundreds of thousands to slay one
another, dupes and victims to emperors, kings, nobles, demons in the
human form called heroes. We have had patriots to defend our homes, our
liberties, but no aspirants to crowns or thrones; nor have the American
people ever suffered themselves to be led on by wicked ambition to
depopulate the land, to spread desolation far and wide, that a human
being might be placed on a seat of supremacy.
We have no interest in the scenes of antiquity, only as lessons of
avoidance of nearly all their examples. The expansive future is our
arena, and for our history. We are entering on its untrodden space, with
the truths of God in our minds, beneficent objects in our hearts, and
with a clear conscience unsullied by the past. We are the nation of
human progress, and who will, what can, set limits to our onward march?
Providence is with us, and no earthly power can. We point to the
everlasting truth on the first page of our national declaration, and we
proclaim to the millions of other lands, that "the gates of hell" -- the
powers of aristocracy and monarchy -- "shall not prevail against it."
The Statue of Liberty Enlightening the World was a gift of friendship
from the people of France to the people of the United States and is a
universal symbol of freedom and democracy. The Statue of Liberty was
dedicated on October 28, 1886, designated as a National Monument in 1924
and restored for her centennial on July 4, 1986.
France is an independent nation in Western Europe and the center of a
large overseas administration. It is the third-largest European nation
(after Russia and Ukraine).
In ancient times France was part of the Celtic territory known as Gaul
or Gallia. Its present name is derived from the Latin Francia, meaning
"country of the Franks," a Germanic people who conquered the area during
the 5th century, at the time of the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
It became a separate country in the 9th century.
Since the 17th century, France has played a major role in European and
world events. In the 20th century, it has experienced numerous crises,
including the devastation of two world wars, political and social
upheavals, and the loss of a large empire in Indochina, Algeria, and
West and Equatorial Africa. It has, however, survived and emerged from
the ruins of World War II to become an important world supplier of
agricultural and industrial products and a major partner in the EUROPEAN
COMMUNITY (EC, or Common Market).
Today, the term metropolitan France refers to the mainland departments
and CORSICA, a large island located in the Mediterranean Sea off the
coast of Italy that has been a part of France since 1768. France has six
overseas departments: FRENCH GUIANA in South America; GUADELOUPE and
MARTINIQUE in the West Indies; MAYOTTE, an island formerly part of the
Comoros, located in the Indian Ocean; REUNION, an island in the Indian
Ocean; and SAINT PIERRE AND MIQUELON, islands off the east coast of
Canada. In addition, France has numerous small possessions called
overseas territories. These include a group of widely scattered islands
in the South Pacific, which are administered from Tahiti and are known
collectively as FRENCH POLYNESIA; FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC
TERRITORIES; NEW CALEDONIA and WALLIS AND FUTUNA ISLANDS; and many small
islands in the southern oceans, including the Kerguelen and Crozet
archipelagos and the islands of St. Paul and Amsterdam (Indian Ocean).
The overseas departments and territories are represented in the French
National Assembly.
* GENERAL WORKS: Ardagh, John, France in the 1980s (1983) and A Cultural
Atlas of France (1991); Bernstein, Richard, Fragile Glory: A Portrait
of France and the French (1990); Braudel, Fernand, The Identity of
France, vol. 1, trans. by S. Reynolds (1989); Mazey, Sonia, and Newman,
Michel, eds., Mitterrand's France (1987); Zeldin, Theodore, The French
(1983).
* GEOGRAPHY: Clout, Hugh D., The Geography of Post-War France (1972);
Pinchemel, Philippe, France: A Geographical, Social, and Economic
Survey, trans. by Dorothy and T. H. Elkins (1987); Economic Geography
(1971); Tuppin, J., The Economic Geography of France (1983).
* ECONOMICS: Hough, Jean, The French Economy (1982); Keating, Michael,
and Hainsworth, Paul, Decentralization and Change in Contemporary France
(1986); Price, Roger, An Economic History of Modern France (1981).
* POLITICS AND GOVERNMENT: Harrison, Martin, et al., De Gaulle to
Mitterrand: Presidential Power in France (1993); McCarthy, Patrick, ed.,
The French Socialists in Power (1987); Safran, William, French Polity,
3d ed. (1991); Tiersky, Ronald, France in the New Europe (1994); Wright,
Vincent, The Government and Politics of France, 3d ed. (1989).
6) 1890 - American Naval Expansion to "refuel and protect commerce" or
The U.S. Active Move Towards War around the World/War dog/Warmonger
period
"War now not only occurs more rarely . . . [but is] an occasional
excess, from which recovery is easy."
Alfred Thayer Mahan (1840-1914)
Naval Historian
Columbia College 1854-18567
By arguing that sea power—the strength of a nation’s navy—was the key to
strong foreign policy, Alfred Thayer Mahan shaped American military
planning and helped prompt a worldwide naval race in the late 19th and
early 20th centuries. Mahan studied at Columbia for two years beginning
in 1854—he was a member of the Philolexian Society, the campus literary
club established in 1802—before decamping for Annapolis, from which he
graduated in 1859. A longtime naval officer who cut his teeth on the
Union side in the Civil War, Mahan eventually lectured on history and
strategy at the Naval War College in Newport, R.I. It was there,
inspired in part by a history of Rome, that he began developing his
theories; in 1890 he turned his lecture notes into The Influence of Sea
Power upon History, 1660-1783.
Appearing at a time when Japan and the nations of Europe were engaged in
a fiercely competitive arms race, Mahan’s work had a singularly
profound influence on politics worldwide. In the United States, Mahan’s
theories found a particularly receptive audience in Presidents William
McKinley and Theodore Roosevelt: His work bolstered the case for rapid
expansion and reconfiguration of the U.S. Navy, which replaced small
cruisers with massive battleships and underwent a concomitant change in
tactics; continued expansion overseas (to the Philippines, Hawaii and
other Pacific islands, and the Caribbean), which allowed the creation
bases at which U.S. ships could refuel and protect commerce; and even
the construction of the Panama Canal, which facilitated the movement of
fleets and freight. Mahan’s work influenced strategists in other
countries as well, leading to naval buildups in England, Germany, and
Japan in particular. Although Mahan saw military might as a means for
avoiding war, the global growth inspired by his theories very clearly
set the stage for World War I.
Read more about Alfred Thayer Mahan in the Columbia Encyclopedia
7) 1892 - 1893 Period
Law of Nations lawbreakers U.S., England, France (who helped to map the
Pacific Ocean which was also funded by the U.S. and England, had gifted
the U.S. with the Trojan Horse - Statue of Liberty), and the Morgan
bankers (includes the International bankers) supported the Modern Day
Trojan horse, the BOSTON Warship which sat in the Honolulu Harbor till
the standing orders were given to leave ship to protect their
Pirates/conspirators/treasonous citizens lives and property and moved in
to Assume the Hawaiian Kingdom.
Pirates made up of a concerted group did plan, strategically move to
assume assets, lands of a friendly, neutral, non-violent nation now
documented.
SUMMARY
The Trojan Horse Story used from the time of the Roman Empire evolved
into the gifting of a Trojan Horse named the Statue of Liberty which
claims to be representing democracy.........but to date, the U.S. has
engaged in 22+ Wars and Conflicts since their beginnings.
France who gifted the Statue of Liberty began to chart out the Pacific
Ocean, and the U.S. and England helped to finance further projects
around islands in the Pacific Ocean.
U.S. Trojan Horse was the BOSTON Warship, with a concerted effort to
move against a neutral, friendly, non-violent nation in 1892-1893.
The Statue of Liberty, therefore, is a modern day Trojan Horse because
the U.S. represents the opposite of democracy, and in reality slavery
for the American people. (see John Nelson's article at http://myweb.ecomplanet.com/GORA8037
)
The BOSTON Warship represented the U.S. et. als. lawbreakers, having
breached the Law of Nations, created their own institutions/corporations
including the United Nations who perpetuate the crimes against humanity
around the World, like the Statue of Liberty, a Trojan Horse.
The Trojan Horse is also used in viruses for computers because Truth is
feared.
aloha.
p.s. I agree with Tane's comment: They can go to hell and take their
false idol which is on Ellis Island with them.
Okay sounds simple enough to understand. "Indigenous peoples and supporters elsewhere are encouraged to organize a small ceremonial event and symbolically burn or tear-up copies of the May 4, 1493 papal bull “Inter Caetera” in demonstration against “Columbus Day,” or “Discoverer’s Day” as it’s known as here in Hawai’i."
Not sure if I am going to be there tomorrow, but I'm educating my grandson as to why grandma does not celebrate as Pilipo said Columbus Colon day.
Still reading through Steve (Kuhio's) Vogler's dissertation and interviews very interesting readings. Much aloha for the music.
In solidarity with indigenous peoples around the world, please join
us for the annual Indigenous Peoples' Day, Papal Bulls Burning ceremony
in Honolulu on Monday, October 11, 5:00 pm, in front of the Roman Catholic
Diocese of Honolulu, 1184 Bishop St. (at the top of Fort Street Mall).
Indigenous peoples and supporters elsewhere are encouraged to organize
a small ceremonial event and symbolically burn or tear-up copies of the
May 4, 1493 papal bull "Inter Caetera" in demonstration against "Columbus
Day," or "Discoverer's Day" as it's known of here in Hawai'i. The document
can be downloaded from our website at:
*Students are especially encouraged to attend in order to put theory into
a little practice by linking the papal bulls issue with other important
indigenous rights' and global issues we've been diligently covering in
class.
Sponsoring organizations include: Kosmos Indigena, Ka Pakaukau, Department
of Ethnic Studies (UH Manoa), Ahupua'a Action Alliance, Hawai'i Institute
for Human Rights, and the Kanaka Maoli Tribunal Komike. For more
information, email: castanha@hawaii.edu, or phone (808) 737-6097.
*Indigenous peoples and supporters seek the formal revocation of the
1493 papal bull "Inter Caetera." This decree was issued by the Vatican
to Christopher Columbus on his second voyage to the Caribbean. Along
with the 1494 Treaty of Tordesillas, it sought to establish Christian
dominion over the globe and called for the subjugation of non-Christian
peoples and seizure of their lands. As a result, an estimated 100 million
indigenous peoples were killed off in the process of Europe's colonization
of the indigenous world. This papal edict has never been repealed and is
the foundation-stone of the international system we live under today and
directly related to the corporate-state-military plunder and rape of the
planet, which is sometimes linked to the phenomenon known as
"globalization."
from pilipo
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Aloha kakou,
Mahalo for correction in history. May I share observations of several readings through out my past 30 years. I don't mean to frighten or discuss anyone but part of my observation includes scripture of the Holy Bible. In the Book of Revelation, written by John who was exiled on the penal colony of Patmos near the end of the first century, some 60 years after Jesus the Christ walked Earth as Man. Some say the Book of Revelation is the the work of a a delirious mad-man and that this Jesus the Christ was even madder than John. Yet if one examines everything before us today, most of the world will be mad not to believe what was written then during the peak of the Roman Empire. Yet some of us well know that peak is now!
Rev. 17:9 ; And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains , on which the Woman sitteth. (17:10) And there are seven kings; five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
"All Roads Lead to Rome", is not an understatement. Detours or "Under Construction" are societies that have not yet conformed to the Doctrine of Empire. The Statue of Liberty (SL) is more than the Trojan Horse. Lady Liberty (SL) is many things to a "select few" and not a few things to many as so promoted. Lady Liberty was a gift to the new Legion in the Roman Empire, the United States of America by the French. One must wonder ever since Christopher Colon, why after every war or conflict, "Official Peace Treaties" are signed in France? To some, this Lady Liberty is known as the Goddess Minerva, and to others the legendary Assyrian Queen Semiramis, the developer of Mystery Babylon.
And some say, she is not alone in the new Empire, for she was/is joined by the Goddess Persephone who sits on the roof of the U. S. Congress of the United States (forum) Why would this Goddess of Hades (Slavery) be so honored upon very top of the alleged Utopia of Freedom? Since the Fall of Babylon, The Tower of Babel no longer strides to reach the God of the Heavens, for it has encompassed the "one is" of John's revelation, their created God, the World Empire.
While there is much is controversy of recorded history, we come to realize who owns the pen and paper. We can only interpret what is going on before us today. What we are getting, is not what we are seeing.
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Not sure if I am going to be there tomorrow, but I'm educating my grandson as to why grandma does not celebrate as Pilipo said Columbus Colon day.
Still reading through Steve (Kuhio's) Vogler's dissertation and interviews very interesting readings. Much aloha for the music.
saw you on Pono's film about the Papal Bulls Burning.....the following message is from Tony Castanha:
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Subject: CELEBRATE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES' DAY! 13th Annual Papal Bulls Burning
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp87XYR9mEE
CELEBRATE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES' DAY!
13th Annual Papal Bulls Burning
In solidarity with indigenous peoples around the world, please join
us for the annual Indigenous Peoples' Day, Papal Bulls Burning ceremony
in Honolulu on Monday, October 11, 5:00 pm, in front of the Roman Catholic
Diocese of Honolulu, 1184 Bishop St. (at the top of Fort Street Mall).
Indigenous peoples and supporters elsewhere are encouraged to organize
a small ceremonial event and symbolically burn or tear-up copies of the
May 4, 1493 papal bull "Inter Caetera" in demonstration against "Columbus
Day," or "Discoverer's Day" as it's known of here in Hawai'i. The document
can be downloaded from our website at:
http://bullsburning.itgo.com/papbull.htm
*Students are especially encouraged to attend in order to put theory into
a little practice by linking the papal bulls issue with other important
indigenous rights' and global issues we've been diligently covering in
class.
Sponsoring organizations include: Kosmos Indigena, Ka Pakaukau, Department
of Ethnic Studies (UH Manoa), Ahupua'a Action Alliance, Hawai'i Institute
for Human Rights, and the Kanaka Maoli Tribunal Komike. For more
information, email: castanha@hawaii.edu, or phone (808) 737-6097.
*Indigenous peoples and supporters seek the formal revocation of the
1493 papal bull "Inter Caetera." This decree was issued by the Vatican
to Christopher Columbus on his second voyage to the Caribbean. Along
with the 1494 Treaty of Tordesillas, it sought to establish Christian
dominion over the globe and called for the subjugation of non-Christian
peoples and seizure of their lands. As a result, an estimated 100 million
indigenous peoples were killed off in the process of Europe's colonization
of the indigenous world. This papal edict has never been repealed and is
the foundation-stone of the international system we live under today and
directly related to the corporate-state-military plunder and rape of the
planet, which is sometimes linked to the phenomenon known as
"globalization."
Aloha a hui hou.
In spirit,
Tony Castana (Carib/Boricua)
papbullslist@revoke.org
Coordinator
Kosmos Indigena
YouTube - Videos from this email
***************
aloha.
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date Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 2:17 PM
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Aloha kakou,
Mahalo for correction in history. May I share observations of several readings through out my past 30 years. I don't mean to frighten or discuss anyone but part of my observation includes scripture of the Holy Bible. In the Book of Revelation, written by John who was exiled on the penal colony of Patmos near the end of the first century, some 60 years after Jesus the Christ walked Earth as Man. Some say the Book of Revelation is the the work of a a delirious mad-man and that this Jesus the Christ was even madder than John. Yet if one examines everything before us today, most of the world will be mad not to believe what was written then during the peak of the Roman Empire. Yet some of us well know that peak is now!
Rev. 17:9 ; And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains , on which the Woman sitteth. (17:10) And there are seven kings; five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
"All Roads Lead to Rome", is not an understatement. Detours or "Under Construction" are societies that have not yet conformed to the Doctrine of Empire. The Statue of Liberty (SL) is more than the Trojan Horse. Lady Liberty (SL) is many things to a "select few" and not a few things to many as so promoted. Lady Liberty was a gift to the new Legion in the Roman Empire, the United States of America by the French. One must wonder ever since Christopher Colon, why after every war or conflict, "Official Peace Treaties" are signed in France? To some, this Lady Liberty is known as the Goddess Minerva, and to others the legendary Assyrian Queen Semiramis, the developer of Mystery Babylon.
And some say, she is not alone in the new Empire, for she was/is joined by the Goddess Persephone who sits on the roof of the U. S. Congress of the United States (forum) Why would this Goddess of Hades (Slavery) be so honored upon very top of the alleged Utopia of Freedom? Since the Fall of Babylon, The Tower of Babel no longer strides to reach the God of the Heavens, for it has encompassed the "one is" of John's revelation, their created God, the World Empire.
While there is much is controversy of recorded history, we come to realize who owns the pen and paper. We can only interpret what is going on before us today. What we are getting, is not what we are seeing.
E ala e, it is more than a jungle!
Aloha is ke Akua,
pilipo
Hawaiian National (1936)
*********************************************awesome observation/information........ Pilipo...aloha.
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