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airs at the 100th anniversary.....of the criminal dethronement of Queen Liliuokalani 1893 ----- many of us rushed towards him to support his song....see 1:01.25 Living in a Sovereign Land.and see 28:15 chant and e ala e ---- .. mesmerizing then with messages throughout ....we all sang along with him then, and continue to sing along with him even today...... ea, ea, ea, ea.....eo ....Maka ala you sleeping giants! alodio lands are forever, and aliens can only have fee simple, less than alodio for our people.....see the 1851 speech of Kamehameha III - Kauikeaouli or read the IOLANI - the Royal Hawk 593 issues to date at theiolani.blogspot.com amazing, influential for our people of genocide, defrauded lied to over time.....corrections being made even now...Iz brought out the uwe/ cries, tears of our people thru his songs....am thankful for that! ;) aloha.
tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies....tell the lies to the people and defraud them all the time.... share, pass on, the truth about the lies told in the Hawaiian Islands, etc. deceiving, defrauding kanaka maoli, and all Aliens........
Amelia GoraLetting everyone know that a Bailey who wrote the forward in the 1929 Indices of Awards laid down the criminal claims made by the Territory of Hawaii.......remember, there are two (2) types of land issues given by Kamehameha III - Kauikeaouli: (1) alodio/allodial only for kanaka maoli and (2) fee simple for Aliens.... then the disinformation artist Bailey merged the two conveyances into one by documenting: "alodio in fee simple" which is why everyone was under the false conclusion that everyone has fee simple! the criminal indoctrination over time by pirates, pillagers, scoundrels, genocide activists is what has surfaced through research.......do Not believe in the Alien lies! ....think we all must know about propaganda artist Joseph Goebbels and read about lies etc. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels
Amelia Gorahttp://forum.quoteland.com/.../a/tpc/f/99191541/m/1301954242Thousand lies quote is attributed to Lenin also.... so, in 1929, the use of lies by Bailey can be seen in the INDICES OF AWARDS ....masking the truth and defrauding ALL kanaka maoli..... always remember that Kamehameha III - Kauikeaouli had good intentions for our people and it was the Aliens who tampered, deceived, maneuvered to cover over the truth......now peel those layers of Maui onion skin (the lies) and you get to the Sweet part (the truth) and Voila! :) p.s. if some of you are wondering why French is used once in a while, it's because I had French nuns at Sacred Hearts Academy...and they had a hard time speaking English.......lol.
A child laughs when it feels joy and cries when it feels pain. Both things, laughing and crying it does with its whole heart. We all became so tall and so clever. We know so much and we have read so much. But one thing we forgot: to laugh and cry like the children do.
It is rotten and dismal that a world of so many hundred million people should be ruled by a single caste that has the power to lead millions to life or to death, indeed on a whim...This caste has spun its web over the entire earth; capitalism recognizes no national boundaries...Capitalism has learned nothing from recent events and wants to learn nothing, because it places its own interests ahead of those of the other millions. Can one blame those millions for standing up for their own interests, and only for those interests? Can one blame them for striving to forge an international community whose purpose is the struggle against corrupt capitalism? Can one condemn a large segment of the educated Stürmer youth for protesting against the greatest ability? Is it not an abomination that people with the most brilliant intellectual gifts should sink into poverty and disintegrate, while others dissipate, squander, and waste the money that could help them? … You say the old propertied class also worked hard for what it has. Granted, that may be true in many cases. But do you also know about the conditions under which workers were living during the period when capitalism “earned” its fortune?
Letter to Anka Stalherm (14 April 1920), quoted in Ralph Georg Reuth, Goebbels (Harvest, 1994), pp. 33-34.
We and we alone [the Nazis] have the best social welfare measures. Everything is done for the nation. . . .The Jews are the incarnation of capitalism.
As quoted in I Will Bear Witness: A Diary of the Nazi Years, 1942-1945, Victor Klemperer, Vol. 2 , Random House, Inc. (2001) p. 317. Goebbels’ “Our Socialism” editorial was written on April 30, 1944.
England is a capitalist democracy. Germany is a socialist people's state.
“Englands Schuld” (“England’s Guilt”), Illustrierter Beobachter, Sondernummer, p. 14. Goebbels' article is not dated, but is from the early months of the war, likely late fall of 1939.
To attract people, to win over people to that which I have realised as being true, that is called propaganda. In the beginning there is the understanding, this understanding uses propaganda as a tool to find those men, that shall turn understanding into politics. Success is the important thing. Propaganda is not a matter for average minds, but rather a matter for practitioners. It is not supposed to be lovely or theoretically correct. I do not care if I give wonderful, aesthetically elegant speeches, or speak so that women cry. The point of a political speech is to persuade people of what we think right. I speak differently in the provinces than I do in Berlin, and when I speak in Bayreuth, I say different things from what I say in the Pharus Hall. That is a matter of practice, not of theory. We do not want to be a movement of a few straw brains, but rather a movement that can conquer the broad masses. Propaganda should be popular, not intellectually pleasing. It is not the task of propaganda to discover intellectual truths. Those are found in other circumstances, I find them when thinking at my desk, but not in the meeting hall.
Speech on 9 January 1928 to an audience of party members at the "Hochschule für Politik", a series of training talks for Nazi party members in Berlin
As quoted in "Erkenntnis und Propaganda," Signale der neuen Zeit. 25 ausgewählte Reden von Dr. Joseph Goebbels (Munich: Zentralverlag der NSDAP., 1934), pp. 28-52
The Pharus Hall was a meeting hall the Nazis often used in Berlin.
My Party is my church, and I believe I serve the Lord best if I do his will, and liberate my oppressed people from the fetters of slavery. That is my gospel.
Ima Hooligan
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Hello everyone, I'm sure we've all heard it before - "Tell a lie often enough and it will become the truth."
I've seen this attributed to a number of people, to include Herman Gobbels, Hitler, Lenin, but regardless of the actual phrasing, where did it originate and who started it?
I've already struck out at Bartleby.com and QuoteGeek.com, I thought I'd ask here,,,
but, ImaHooligan, when you typed your reply... did you hit return/enter after every line or did it just come up that way? (Some people have been having problems with something similar and I'm trying to see if it's something basic that we're missing. )
I'm sure one of the smarter Quotelanders will check in with the answer to your question...
I inserted hard returns, I'm used to doing that from working with Pine - I did not insert them on this reply.
Oh, I forgot to mention; Quoteland.com attributes that to Lenin, but elsewhere others are attributed, I was hoping to find something authoritative and definitive to settle a minor dispute.
Except, it is enough, 5 times, 100 times, or a 1000 times. Nobody seems to agree. There must be a definitve source that has it accurate, if he said it at all. I also saw it as an adage.
>Except, it is enough, 5 times, 100 times, or a 1000 times. Nobody seems to agree.
I know. Goebbels and Hitler are both named, Hitler apparently wrote something (similar) in Mein Kampf, but Quoteland.com attributes it to Lenin, who died in 1924 (see http://161.58.184.85/qldb/author/263) - they don't say where or when Lenin said it though (and he probably picked it up from someone else).
I sure would like to get to the true origin of this one, I'm curious as hell now.
"When a myth is shared by large numbers of people, it becomes a reality." ~Lawrence Blair
"Convince enough people of a lie, and it becomes truth." ~Ron Amundson
A lie that can be passed off as truth becomes truth
"Love is the basis for all the values. Action with love is right conduct. Speak with love, and it becomes truth. Thinking with love results in peace. Understanding with love leads to non-violence. For everything, love is primary. Where there is love there is no place for hatred." ~Sathya Sai Baba, discourse of 20-5-1995
the word, spoken loudly enough becomes truth
...a wise old owl....and a crafty old cat...This message has been edited. Last edited by: thenostromo,
This has both the Lenin quote and Goebbels expansion that is presumably based on it. Ironic isn't it that the extreme right and left of the political spectrum have such close thoughts. Perhaps its more of an indication of the similarity of totalitarian regimes, regardless of the ideology.
In der Größe der Lüge [liegt] immer ein gewisser Faktor des Geglaubtwerdens (...), da die breite Masse eines Volkes (...) bei der primitiven Einfalt ihres Gemütes einer großen Lüge leichter zum Opfer fällt als einer kleinen. — Adolf Hitler, «Mein Kampf», I, 10. — München, 1939, S. 230.
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Biffo
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Volume 1, chapter 10, it seems. The context of the comments is always worth checking. The English translation is here.
"This most of all shows the assertion that the lost War was the cause of the German collapse to be a lie. No, this military collapse was itself only the consequence ... of an ethical and moral poisoning, of a diminution in the instinct of self-preservation and its preconditions, which for many years had begun to undermine the foundations of the people and the Reich.
"It required the whole bottomless falsehood of the Jews and their Marxist fighting organization to lay the blame for the collapse on that very man who alone, with superhuman energy and will power, tried to prevent the catastrophe he foresaw and save the nation from its time of deepest humiliation and disgrace By branding Ludendorff as guilty for the loss of the World War they took the weapon of moral right from the one dangerous accuser who could have risen against the traitors to the fatherland. In this they proceeded on the sound principle that the magnitude of a lie always contains a certain factor of credibility, since the great masses of the people in the very bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather than consciously and purposely evil, and that, therefore, in view of the primitive simplicity of their minds they more easily fall a victim to a big lie than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but would be ashamed of lies that were too big. Such a falsehood will never enter their heads and they will not be able to believe in the possibility of such monstrous effrontery and infamous misrepresentation in others; yes, even when enlightened on the subject, they will long doubt and waver, and continue to accept at least one of these causes as true. Therefore, something of even the most insolent lie will always remain and stick-a fact which all the great lie-virtuosi and lying-clubs in this world know only too well and also make the most treacherous use of."
The Truth is often discussed and everyone has s different definition.
I don't think the Truth can be defined. I court they ask to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Impossible because they can define Truth.
For me the Truth is experienced not explained.
Blessing to all at Quoteland,
Michael
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Joseph Goebbels
Paul Joseph Goebbels (29 October 1897 – 1 May 1945) was Adolf Hitler's Propaganda Minister in Nazi Germany. He also served as Chancellor for one day, following Hitler's death. He was known for his zealous and energetic oratory and virulent anti-Semitism.
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I'm sure we've all heard it before - "Tell a lie
often enough and it will become the truth."
I've seen this attributed to a number of people,
to include Herman Gobbels, Hitler, Lenin, but
regardless of the actual phrasing, where did it
originate and who started it?
I've already struck out at Bartleby.com and
QuoteGeek.com, I thought I'd ask here,,,
IH
Moderator
Quoteland Demigod
I'm sure one of the smarter Quotelanders will check in with the answer to your question...
Have a fantastical day!
Oh, I forgot to mention; Quoteland.com attributes that to Lenin, but elsewhere others are attributed, I was hoping to find something authoritative and definitive to settle a minor dispute.
IH
Quoteland Potentate
"A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth."
~ G. Goebbels (Joseph Goebbels), Propaganda officer for Adolf Hitler
http://aig.smartbusiness.org/home/area/Creation_Clubs/docs/102quote...
http://www.computec-int.com/bsc/war/excuse.htm
http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/feb/22akd.htm
http://www.ppp.org.pk/speeches/speech12.html
"Tell a lie a hundred times and it becomes the truth."
~ Goebbels, 1939
http://www.ius.bg.ac.yu/apel/materijali/info-warfare.html
I know. Goebbels and Hitler are both named, Hitler apparently wrote something (similar) in Mein Kampf, but Quoteland.com attributes it to Lenin, who died in 1924 (see http://161.58.184.85/qldb/author/263) - they don't say where or when Lenin said it though (and he probably picked it up from someone else).
I sure would like to get to the true origin of this one, I'm curious as hell now.
IH
Quoteland Potentate
~Willie Brown, California political leader (current mayor of San Francisco)
"A lie told often enough becomes truth."
~ Lenin, Marxist revolutionary (1870-1924)
http://www.geocities.com/allaxul9/quotes.html
http://www.flexpress.net/quotes.htm
http://www.nwmissouri.edu/~s214560/quotes.html
http://www.mitcharf.com/~mitcharf/quotes/
"When a myth is shared by large numbers of people, it becomes a reality."
~Lawrence Blair
"Convince enough people of a lie, and it becomes truth."
~Ron Amundson
A lie that can be passed off as truth becomes truth
"Love is the basis for all the values. Action with love is right conduct. Speak with love, and it becomes truth. Thinking with love results in peace. Understanding with love leads to non-violence. For everything, love is primary. Where there is love there is no place for hatred." ~Sathya Sai Baba, discourse of 20-5-1995
the word, spoken loudly enough becomes truth
...a wise old owl....and a crafty old cat... This message has been edited. Last edited by: thenostromo,
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/repetition.html
This has both the Lenin quote and Goebbels expansion that is presumably based on it. Ironic isn't it that the extreme right and left of the political spectrum have such close thoughts. Perhaps its more of an indication of the similarity of totalitarian regimes, regardless of the ideology.
Quoteland Godfather
The broad mass of a nation .. .will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.
Only constant repitition will finally succeed in imprinting an idea on the memory of the crowd.
The gretaer the lie, the greater the chance that it will be believed.
http://www.quoteland.com/author.asp?AUTHOR_ID=594
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Since we are destined to live out our lives in the prison of our minds, our one duty is to furnish it well~Peter Ustinov
[This message was edited by thenostromo on 12-12-05 at 05:26 PM.]
"This most of all shows the assertion that the lost War was the cause of the German collapse to be a lie. No, this military collapse was itself only the consequence ... of an ethical and moral poisoning, of a diminution in the instinct of self-preservation and its preconditions, which for many years had begun to undermine the foundations of the people and the Reich.
"It required the whole bottomless falsehood of the Jews and their Marxist fighting organization to lay the blame for the collapse on that very man who alone, with superhuman energy and will power, tried to prevent the catastrophe he foresaw and save the nation from its time of deepest humiliation and disgrace By branding Ludendorff as guilty for the loss of the World War they took the weapon of moral right from the one dangerous accuser who could have risen against the traitors to the fatherland. In this they proceeded on the sound principle that the magnitude of a lie always contains a certain factor of credibility, since the great masses of the people in the very bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather than consciously and purposely evil, and that, therefore, in view of the primitive simplicity of their minds they more easily fall a victim to a big lie than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but would be ashamed of lies that were too big. Such a falsehood will never enter their heads and they will not be able to believe in the possibility of such monstrous effrontery and infamous misrepresentation in others; yes, even when enlightened on the subject, they will long doubt and waver, and continue to accept at least one of these causes as true. Therefore, something of even the most insolent lie will always remain and stick-a fact which all the great lie-virtuosi and lying-clubs in this world know only too well and also make the most treacherous use of."
I don't think the Truth can be defined. I court they ask to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Impossible because they can define Truth.
For me the Truth is experienced not explained.
Blessing to all at Quoteland,
Michael
The Pirate's Gospel
Tell Me Lies - Fleetwood Mac
aloha.